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Enjoyed his use of chaos goalies versus structure goalies since it makes a lot of sense. Some goalies thrive in structure but suffer in chaos while other play well in structure but are better remembered for their play in chaos.

No thank you, it’s certainly tempting but the sheer multitude of what a Hellebuyck extension would look like and the age/ window difference turns me away rather fast. In no small part Helle’s age makes his conceivable window not align with the vast majority of players we have. His AAV + age will create issues by year 4 even if Hellebuyck continues to be a Top 10 goalie. How many 35+ year old goalies are still high tier in their play? The issue pops up since it’s borderline impossible for the Sabres to stun the world and conventional wisdom and win the Cup next year without any prior runs. Most commonly your core needs 2 or 3 serious runs before you can truly be considered a perennial Cup contender. Chicago did it in approximately 2. But that is rare. Pittsburgh took 3 to make the Finals and 4 to win. Hellebuyck’s age would be 34/35 in year 4 in this scenario. Most goalies begin to peter out at that point. Either they get bad, or less reliable with playing availability. I’d much rather have the goalie we could conceivably have for 15 years than one for 5.

Hopefully it’s 8x9.926mil

My proposal was UPL, 13, 45 for Hart, 22, 87 and LA 2024 5th

Strangely yes in terms of value

In the end one effective year doesn't erase the 3 or so bad ones

I'd be willing to do the 1st I don't budge on Kulich/Savoie

Perhaps we can merely move Philly’s 2nd as the primary pick. It would be certainly preferable

He’s an RFA next year, so we would at very least get a year to get to know him

I’m very confused by this trade from LA’s POV

I’m actually moving down

I have reservations with Hart however My offer would be UPL, 13 and a 2nd for 22 and Hart At most

So so far Philly gets Petersen, Grans, Walker LAKs 1st and 2nd CbJ gets Provorov at 30% retention What is LA getting outside of cap space?

Looks that way lol

Severson wouldn’t be a good pickup due to his contract cost plus unnecessary skill set. He’s an offensively skilled defenseman with some issues in his own zone. We already have that in spades.

That’s overkill for DeMelo who is also a 1 year contract and 30 years old. I’d offer Jokiharju and maybe a 4th for him.

My max is 5 years and 7.5m

It's a very arbitrary definition because its an arbitrary idea. The Trade Deadline is rental day, well players traded in January are also called rentals usually. Is it simply any player acquired within the season? Analysts call guys acquired at the deadline with 1 year extra, A bit more than a rental Odds to a degree. A player with 1 year can get hurt and never play for you. A player with 2 years is far less likely to get hurt 2 straight seasons and never play for you.

A true rental is any UFA-to be player acquired for 1 or fewer seasons. If after trading for said player, the next July 1st he can walk, that's a rental. 2 year contracts are considered short term players but since they get 2 seasons with the team, they aren't rentals Close, its not purely based on Hallebuyck but also the lack of experience we have.

I just think even with Hallebuyck, the likelihood of a young team like ours getting beyond the 2nd round is small. 4 teams make the Conference Finals after all; it’s not exactly an easy feat to reach. Without Hallebuyck, the likelihood drops further and the most likely guess Id have is 1st round exit. if we could get Hallebuyck to agree to a 5x7.5mil extension then go get him

If we were in a playoff spot and thus I knew the pick was likely 16+ and our team was running and gunning with the best of them. SURE. The risk of throwing away assets is far smaller once you get near the deadline since you know your likeliest outcomes. Plus further success actually lessens the traded draft asset’s value.

Yup, that seems rather accurate. I’m looking for long term success versus immediate success. I don’t see enough of an advantage from Hellebuyck taking us to the 2nd round then departing in bettering our long term push to win the Cup. Mainly because I don’t want Levi to have to come in the next season and be expected to equal or top Hellebuyck

My issue is with 13 ++ Also, Levi getting hurt is a setback but he doesn’t just magically leave after next season. We still have full control over him. It is only asset burning if the acquired piece plays only a few games or is terrible. It’s akin to drafting a full bust like Novotny. You swung the bat and missed entirely. That is why my interest is only lukewarm and I’d rather trade more or less conditional pick in 24. I don’t want all the risk whereas WPG gets potentially valuable assets for a singular year of a goalie they may have no plan to re-sign. I’ll always be overtly cautious; I’m not a gambler by any stretch and I’ll almost always take the least risk possible when going forward. I don’t see our prospect pool as easily dipped into without issue. We are in need defensive prospects and any pool is only as deep as their availability timeline. Trading 13, UPL and Kisakov for Hellebuyck would be exciting sure, but it’s incredibly temporary since we have him for one season. Adding anything more to the deal is plain bonkers, if NJ wants to offer their top prospect and their next 1st; let them. I’ll be happy as long as they continue to make improvements, get a vet goalie for a couple years to help Levi; you don’t need to target the biggest fish to achieve that goal.

Played well but his size and lack of chemistry was a killer for him. Game 2 & 3 were his games. Game 2 he looked green, lots of energy but little to show for it and ran into Hershey’s defensive tactics. Game 3 he looked a bit better as he was paired with Kulich and Weisbach. Set up one the Amerks with a point blank chance as well as he showed his dynamic offensive vision. Problem was that he usually was just not strong enough to fight off Hershey checkers who would grab him to prevent his natural shiftiness and then smother him. In a strange way he may of looked better in an NHL game just due to the less literal clutching and grabbing involved.