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This is my exact experience as well. Somehow the out-of-town fans get better treatment than the home fans. For the longest time under their previous owner, the Blackhawks owner would only allow home games to be broadcast if the game was sold out. I think they are now all shown (except national games) on some random Chicago sports network channel. Seems broken to me. But, ESPN+ for Sabres and picking up random free trials for other services when I care to try to watch TNT works just fine for me. Sidenote - if you have a gmail address, you can add and move around a period to your address to fool the subscription services. JoeSchmoe at gmail and Joe.Schmoe at gmail both go to the same inbox. I have almost run out of these iteration with Fubo, tho - lol Edit: Cut the cord in 2015 and have not regretted for one single second. Cable can eff off.

Yeah, totally get that. I just ... I dunno, I like to give in to the good vibes. I also don't get super down when they get back to sucking giant donkey balls, either. Watching your favorite football team lose 4 super bowls in a row while you are 12-16 yrs old really just kinda teaches you how not to feel, lol

It is worth noting that by going 7-3-0 in their last 10, if they keep that pace up with a few 7-2-1's , they'd be near CBJ's current 90.5 pt pace. Unlikely, yup. Improbable, heck ya. Fun if it happens, sure would be!

This. It is hilarious how poorly the Russian military has performed right next door to their own country to think they wouldn't lose half their force crossing the ocean to broken down boats is silly. Not for nothing, I don't Canada's air force would be a push over, either. A+ for the fan fic, LGR!

The second bullet under Ward actually makes me lean towards him. Forgot ALLLLL about Niemi. I guess a reasonable argument could be made that in his starting years with TB, Dilfer's number were "decent"? 69 (heh heh) TD and 85 INT seems closer to bad than decent. More like Ward's 3.68 and 0.882 ... woof.

@matter2003 after carefully reviewing the virtually non-existent criteria I set forth in this challenge, I have decided to reluctantly accept Osgood. I still think he (and Cam Ward) were no where near the level of "WTF?" in being starting 'tendies that Dilfer was being a starting QB, but they might be the closest we get?

But, that isn't entirely true. Didn't they have one of, if not the best, record in the NHL under Donny G when leading going into the third? This year has be so traumatizing, it has people misremembering left and right! Or ... am I one of those people??

I mean ... with the exception of dee troy it, no one above the Sabres seems to want it..

😉 well ... no.

RE: Murray (sorta) - aren't we (the forum) sorta talking in circles? Most threads include discussion on ALL the player evals that the team got wrong (insert list of players we constantly lament that "got away") ... but now we are saying we TRUST their ability to properly evaluate Murray (or any other AHL player) ... which is it? lol

Sounds like Dave Andreychuk

I am quite jealous you have national polls about hockey things 😞 Most Americans think they won the gold in the game against Russia in 1980 ... and that is IF they even know about it any more. 🤷‍♂️

.908 and 2.74 ... but those numbers are a bit misleading, lower GAAs were more common in his main playing days. ✅I accept your answer - even tho Cam was not at the same level of "oh lord, what?" as Dilfer.

My sentence structure on the original question was poor, but I did say "that actually won the cup"

I think people need a refresher on the fact that Trent would not even be described as an "adequate" starting QB: He hasn't won a cup, so *BUZZ* you get the family feud red x ❌

That makes me wonder ... has there ever been the NHL goalie equivalent of Trent Dilfer? "We just need our goalie to manage the game and not lose it for us?" that actually won the cup?

Not necessarily you, but I remember LOTS of folks 'round these here parts were ready to anoint him as our next CAPTAIN, let alone just the "A" ...

To the bold ... so? Would you rather have him here, floundering in a situation that is not right for him and dragging the team down, or move on and try to make the team better? Far more successful organizations that this one have moved on from far better players than Cozens when their performance was not what it needed to be. For the record, I blame the contract for part of it - putting too much pressure on himself. If I recall correctly, Ryan Miller used a sports psychologist at points in his career ... maybe Ryan could share the number? Or perhaps Rasmus could earn that "C" on his chest and tell Dylan that story about when he (Ras) realized he needed to stop playing the game for other people and just go out be the best Dahlin he could be.

Hey! You can't gatekeep the gatekeeping! 🤣

I will say the Crosby goal was a FAR bigger dagger to my American (but very respectful of Canadians) heart. Ryan Miller willed that team to the Gold Medal game. He was brilliant. Everyone knew the US had no business being in OT for the Gold without Miller. To see it end sorta casually with a funny shot from a weird angle was devastating. I think knowing the US blew their one chance made it worse. I feel like the US will be a factor in the medal rounds of international hockey far more frequently going forward.

The bolded is the whole point. The stats for PB I listed were when he was drafted. I did miss the part where Östlund's weight had since been updated. NHL.com had PB at 6'-1" and 196 for his playing career. "Small" by this board's standards.

The talk of how big some 17 or 18 yr old kid is and how that will translate to NHL success is absurd (not directed at the most esteemed LGR, as I know you have railed against that in the past). I would challenge anyone to notice the on-ice difference between 5'-11" and 174 lbs and 6'-0" 180 lbs. The two players, in order, listed above - Östlund (minus the fancy O) and one of the greatest defensive forwards to play the game, Patrice Bergeron ... So, yeah - complaining about the size of 17 yr old kids ... so smart 🙄 For an added bonus, Mike Peca was 5'-11" 183 lbs during his NHL playing career. Get right outta here that Östlund is "too small" ... no time for that!

A team might win with the "sure hope they figure it out real quick" strategy (it happened like once before, so i guess it could happen again?) ... but that team would be foolish bastards to expect it.** **ESPECIALLY when the "vets" on that team are merely survivors of (or the poor souls who failed to escape from) the aforementioned system of lunacy.

lol - fair. Although, I think they probably have enough players with "enough" hockey IQ, but those players tend to rely on the high end guys for cues and to be the first to react to something. I think the Sabres don't have enough high end, so the simply adequate folks get exposed more regularly.

Situational awareness? It does seem like some of the Sabres' players might not have "it" in the hockey IQ department?