tom webster

People keep pounding the table for experience and less meddling even while with the final four teams we have; two first time coaches three first time GM’s and one owner considered more meddlesome then TPEGS

Howie Roseman practically begged every NFL team for a job before the Eagles “hired” him as an intern. Five years later he was their GM. I could come up with ten more stories although not as crazy as his. Teams hire ex-players as GM’s all the time. People were jumping for joy when Terry hired Lafontaine. Hiring him has been an unmitigated disaster but the process has worked before. He was a well respected player, a team leader and has a masters agree. He was hardly the equivalent of a daycare teacher. Again, I’m not advocating for him to be retained. I would have fired him last year but his hiring was not anymore out of left field then several other hires, including several that have hoisted a championship trophy.

Again you can’t argue with the lack of results but other owners do occasionally make out of the box hires and they hit a home run, or in the case of the Philadelphia Eagles, a grand slam. People point to the need for experience despite the fact that some of the most successful hires were first time guys without the prerequisite background. Adams has been a failure but it’s not like he was an elementary teacher when they promoted him.

I’m sorry, TPEGS deserves a lot of criticism but comparing him to Dan Snyder is over the line. The only reason Snyder is not in jail is because he has enough money and influence to buy his way out. Snyder is a scum bag. Terry is by all accounts a decent human being who has made some big mistakes with his hockey team.

Me too. Damn fax machine And Jiri Dudacek, or something like that.

I’ll admit, I had to look it up to confirm but it was Barrett Heisten and I’m old enough to include Morris Titanic and Joe Kowal.

I was about to ask about Savage before I read the last sentence. Nice touch.

Any word on Artem Kryokov?

I don’t think 31 other teams have a President and several of the ones that do were just playing musical chairs to keep a valued assistant GM. Titles aren’t important anyway. Having someone competent at the top, regardless of the title, is what matters.

I think it’s more that he wants the chance to be a #1 and expects to be paid accordingly. If he would sign for #3 money, they’d keep him.

No one really believes PFF grades

You don’t really think the lack of production from receivers cost them that game? I understand where you are coming from but first, they acquired Palmer who was amongst the league leaders in separation, second, Shakir and Kincaid are among the leaders, third, you have to hope Coleman makes some strides although he wasn’t a great separator in college either but fourth, and most importantly, I’m sure he’d love to have a top receiver but you can’t have everything you want and it’s hard to argue with the success they’ve had as well as addressing an area that was far more problematic then receiver separation.

This isn’t actually true. Three of them were in the top fifteen in separation. You can Google it or maybe I will when I get around to it.

I don’t disagree. I believe you need to uncover some gems to be successful and sustainable. I also don’t put much stock in pro bowl selection. I just thought the stat was interesting and maybe a foretell that NFL scouting has gotten better in large part because of the information available. Of course, I could be reading way too much into it.🤷‍♂️

A stat I heard today that I think goes against the conventional wisdom of the importance of the later rounds. from 2021 till 2023, out of the 685 players drafted after the first round, only 20 have made a pro bowl. During that same time, 25 of the 95 players drafted in the first round have made at least one pro bowl. 20 out of 685 25 out of 95

That I agree with

I like some of these but as for the last one, I’d take a flyer on Zegras resurrecting his career but they can get a lot more for Byram.

This is a pretty significant hire for the business side of things.

I’m your age, I remember Hextall. Think he ended up playing for the Penguins .

It’s funny, first thing I thought of when reading the original post was Guy Trottier.

100% agree with second paragraph

I actually think the trade for Norris was a good move. When I said not to count on him, I meant that his presence shouldn’t prevent you from acquiring another top center.

They can’t trade Norris when his value is low. The best they can do is not count on him and consider it a bonus if he remains healthy. I know we disagree on how much room they have to play with but they have options to acquire what they need without trading Norris.

I think it’s mostly this, but also is probably a little disappointment showing through when the players realize how far away they really are from being good enough. Some come back to the minors eager to work on their game. Others contemplate and probably reimagine their future.

I agree with all of this except I have no issues with the hiring of Ruff. Coaching interviews in the NHL are largely overrated, at least in my opinion. I think it is clear that, if, and it’s still not guaranteed, but if he gets another year, it would be his last chance.