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IF he were willing to sign for that, expect that he'd already be signed. He's going to get Thompson/Cozens money soon or he'll be eclipsing them in a couple of years. It's in the Sabres best interest to get him onto a Cozens-esque deal.
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GDT: Wild @ Sabres - Nov 10, 2023 - 7:00pm, MSG-B/ESPN+📺WGR📻
Taro T replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
Really interested in seeing how Savoie looks and if Johnson the Younger can continue to look as well as he has in his 1st 2 games. Levi played well in TO. Will be interested to see how he plays against a team that (from the stat sheets, haven't watched them yet this year) seems to play a wide open game that DOESN'T have a Matthews on it. Also, presuming Tuch can't go, but Cozens can, am wondering if Cozens ends up centering Krebs and Rousek or if the 2nd line gets mixed in with his. -
Theoretically, What does a McDavid trade look like?
Taro T replied to elijah's topic in The Aud Club
Am not "comparing" anything. Am pointing out that 20 games of 100+ point Gretzky and ONLY 20 games of Gretzky (who was still better than a point per game player for the 2 following years) wasn't worth nearly as much as people watching casually might have expected him to return. Also, am indirectly stating that even though this is a hypothetical, that contract term will go a long way towards dictating what any potential trade of McDavid might return for the Eulers. Teams trading for McDavid now are only guaranteed 2-1/2 seasons of him. The closer any trade gets to the end of the '25-'26 season will significantly affect the return. -
Theoretically, What does a McDavid trade look like?
Taro T replied to elijah's topic in The Aud Club
As a purely hypothetical exercise, expect a trade for McDavid would not net the Eulers equivalent value in trade; it just can't. But it would net them more than the Sabres would want to give up. Expecting it would start with 2 of the next 3 Sabres 1st round picks, Cozens, another prospect/player that was acquired w/ a 1st rounder (would likely end up either Savoie or Benson, but Edmonton would be asking for Power to be that piece when the discussion starts), and 1 other slightly lesser piece (this year's 2nd rounder, Rousek, something of that general level). And giving up all that would be painful, but depending upon whether McDavid still considers Buffalo a place he'd like to be long term expect Adams would reluctantly part with that. -
MHO, it's as simple as the Eulers have always (well, ever since Muckler left) been bad at drafting anywhere outside the top 5 picks (and even those are hit or miss more than they should be), so they have very little support for the Big Two, and Skinner, while a nice story last year, was a mirage. Maybe he becomes as good as he was getting credit for being last year; but the league is littered with 1 hit wonders in net, expect there's a better chance he's another than he'll be able to pull a Carter Hart and get back to his early pro self after a couple of down years.
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Granato says goalies will rotate; Levi learned from the "grind"
Taro T replied to PASabreFan's topic in The Aud Club
Personally, expect that they are developing that mindset. They SAY they can & will win now, but they are in the process of actually believing that. Shutting out the Avs, actually getting a point in Left Turn Lane Land, and a couple of these other games are helping to make that an actual belief rather than just something they say. -
Theoretically, What does a McDavid trade look like?
Taro T replied to elijah's topic in The Aud Club
EVERYBODY (but @shrader apparently & yours truly) forgets that Gretzky wasn't only traded TO LA. He was also traded FROM LA. Interestingly (or not), Ryan Johnson's dad Craig was one of the pieces that went to LA in that deal. The Kings got 1 1st rounder, 3 players, and another late round draft choice for the Great One. The package was that small because everybody knew he was just going to be a rental for the end of that season. -
Would actually prefer the 2nd line to be the 2 way line that can shut opponents down than the 3rd or 4th line, but we're kind of getting into just semantics there. They are definitely working towards having 3 highly skilled lines. Whether the 4th line ends up a 2 way offensively inclined line or a defensively responsible tough to play against line like the Aisles 4th line remains to be seen. (And, that there aren't many guys that could fit that sort of role at present shouldn't be used as a reason to expect they won't be here in a year or 2. This team has a plethora of high end prospects and there isn't going to be room for everybody. Rather than trading all of the excess for futures to keep the pipeline replenished, some could get moved for Matt Martin style guys or those guys could come from FA.) Personally would be very interested in seeing if they could make 2 solidly 2 way lines for the middle 6 and believe that both Mitts and Cozens could center just such a line. That would give them the freedom to make pretty much any sort of 4th line they feel like running with. They already have 5 guys that could fit those middle 2 line roles if all were healthy - Mitts, Cozens, Greenway, Quinn, & Peterka. Could Krebs, Savoie, or Benson (or maybe even Rousek) help finish out rounding out 2 of those style lines?
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But if you're looking depth, you have to include the injured guys in that IMHO. And Olofsson, Jost, Krebs AREN'T 7-9 (or whichever of those guys you're chosing as 7-9). The top 9 are Skinner, Thompson, Tuch, Greenway, Mittelstadt, Cozens, Peterka, Quinn, & likely Savoie. Take whichever 3 of those you want to say are 7-9 and throw in 3 of those others and THAT's the bottom half of the F lineup. The D is likely SLIGHTLY better, but it isn't like they're the '05-'07 Sabres D going up against the '14-'15 Sabres F's. Would say the Sabres are 14 NHL deep at F and 7-8 NHL deep at D. Again, it's pretty comparable. My 2 cents. YMMV.
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They gave Mittelstadt Olofsson and Asplund last year and then Olofsson and Jost. Cozens got Frick and Frack. How exactly are they jerking Cozens around but coddling Mitts? The Loafs went all in on F's. They have completely ignored D (unless you want to include Reilly who is not good in his own end, which kind of is on brand for them) and wouldn't know a good goalie if one bit them in the arse. The Sabres have spread their $'s out on F's and D. And they seem to be all-in on the kid that they expect will get them out of goalie purgatory. Yes, they want to play uptempo, but they haven't built their team to be the next Loafs. Pretty sure Adams "ideal" model is Carolina, but Detroit and Chicago - 2 teams that stayed at the top for a long time had a lot of homegrown talent the the cores of their teams are also viewed as models of how to do it right. And, not the Yzerplan Wings, the Holland Wings that stayed good when the Cap 1st got implemented.
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Yup. And then the 7th D rotation goes however you want out of Johnson, Johnson, Jokiarju, Clifton when all are healthy with either Samuelsson or Jokiharju moving to Dahlin's partner when Johnson the Younger is out and that call can be made based upon whether Muel-Power clicks as well as it should or not. If it's seriously solid, suffer through the 1 game every 5 with Ras-Joker and don't mess with the other pairing. If it's just OK, then slide both Muel and Joker up 1 pairing when Ryan is out. And Bryson is nowhere near that rotation and likely in Ra-cha-cha now that guys are getting ready to come off IR and the 23 man limit is once again limiting.
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Disagree. They have 7 D that look reasonable/good in the NHL. They have 1 more low end NHLer and 2-3 more tweeners that are IMHO lesser NHLers than the Sabres current 4th liners. Lose 2 of those 7 D and in a best case you're playing Stillman and in a worst case you're playing Bryson 8 minutes wearing out Dahlin and Power (provided they're 2 of the healthy 5). They're already missing Quinn, Cozens, and now Tuch (not to mention Benson & until now Savoie plus even Biro is apparently injured) but only Olofsson is significantly out of his element (and that's as much from having become a headcase as it is being overmatched). (A case could be made that Okposo is too, but Adams and Granato seem happy to have him rolling along, so it doesn't really count against the overall team skill IMHO. (Self inflicted wounds don't mean better players aren't available within the organization.) But even with all that, the top 2 lines are still good, the 4th line is adequate at worst and getting Olofsson off the "3rd line" might allow even that to become adequate/reasonably good. And they could pull up either Rosen or Kulich to fill his slot if they wanted to do so. Bring Quinn, Cozens, and Tuch back into the lineup and you've got a top 9 (in no particular order) of Skinner, Thompson, Tuch, Greenway, Mittelstadt, Peterka, Quinn, Cozens, Savoie/Benson with Girgensons, Krebs/Jost, Okposo for the 4th line. That, right there has 2 guys sitting in the press box or moved back to Juniors before even going to the Kulich, Rosen, Rousek, Olofsson, Biro cards. The forwards are deeper, and so far that's been a good thing, as the injury bug so far has been plaguing the F's rather than the D like it did last year.
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Probably Johnson. But could see a scenario where it's Jokiharju that comes out.
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This. So much this. Though the Sabres can also get into an "overskill" game as well when playing lesser opponents where they look for the beautiful highlight reel goal rather than just sending the puck to the net when they have a good chance and working to gain the rebound should there be one. The 1st half of the 2nd period of the Moe-ray-all game is the definitive example of this. The Bills are pretty well defined too. The D will give up a long drive to start the game but then tighten up significantly. They will be very difficult to score on from the Red Zone. The O runs through Josh Allen almost exclusively (he's been a part of IIRC 17 of their last 18 TDs) and as he goes so goes the rest of the offense. They move the ball very well, but get drives stalled from either TOs or penalties. When the O doesn't shoot itself in the foot, it is deadly.
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The Elephant In the Sabres' Room: Fixing the Power Play
Taro T replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
Yes, moving the puck quickly will help. But they can't just move the puck, they need to move themselves too. Their PP tends to be very static once they finally set up and the D get into the passing/shooting lanes leaving them just moving the puck around the perimeter hoping either Tage gets lost somehow and actually gets the shooting lane or Tuch can get a deflection on a shot from Dahlin. -
The Elephant In the Sabres' Room: Fixing the Power Play
Taro T replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
Like that they've put Mittelstadt on the top PP. But he should be the bumper. You're suggestion of moving Dahlin to the right boards is interesting. And it could work. Would love to have Skinner off that unit and have been advocating for it for a long time. Rarely call for it anymore because there is no way Granato pulls him off that unit. But if he were off it, would put Cozens down low in his spot. Tuch is the obvious choice to be there, but he doesn't ever seem to set a screen when he's rotated to that spot. Greenway would be another possibility but not sure his hands are good enough to clean up the rebounds that they'd hopefully be generating. Also, not sure that they should have both of their F's from the top PK unit getting 1st line PP minutes too. If going with the traditional set up w/ Dahlin up top, would have Peterka on the 1/2 wall opposite Thompson. Going with your idea of Dahlin there, would put Power at the top of the unit. Johnson could run the 2nd unit. That could have Tuch, Skinner, Peterka, and if they're in the lineup one of Benson or Savoie at the bumper rounding out that 2nd unit. -
They didn't "rush" him last year; he was out a long time. But he definitely wasn't the same when he came back from injury that he'd been before the injury nor what he was at the very end of the season. Hoping they learned from last year's experience and make sure he's healthy before they bring him back.
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TWO YEARS and 70 GAMES FROM NOW is when he can become a UFA. Both he and the team can elect arbitration before then. There is no reason at all to EXPECT him to hold out. Again, 1st impressions are very hard to overcome.
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Sportico Releases NHL Franchise Valuations Sabres are 30th
Taro T replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
Could be. The vast majority of these 30 entities are privately held. Organizations lie Sportico and Forbes try to make reasonable estimates of the values of these privately held entities. But they don't really know. A fair amount of the info that goes into their estimates are guestimates. It isn't Carl Sagan "guestimate of how many extraterrestrial civilizations are out there in the galaxy" level of guestimation. (There literally is NOTHING that is more guesswork than that - every single # in his equation is a guess.) But it isn't exactly exact either. The Otters having been sold in the last year is the one team that the valuation is quite accurate. And the new estimate is ONLY 45% higher than their last estimate prior to the sale. So, while it is fun seeing what people think these are worth, there is a reason that teams ALWAYS sell for significantly different prices than these studies estimate they'll actually sell for. The underlying #'s, for the most part aren't publicly available. (And that's even with a lot of the gross HRR numbers actually indirectly available because that is the basis of the salary cap and the calculations that result in the salary cap are publicly available.) -
Vaclav Varada agrees with this post. 😉
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GDT: Sabres @ Hurricanes: November 7, 2023 @ 7:00PM, MSG-B, BSSO
Taro T replied to SABRES 0311's topic in The Aud Club
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Too early to say on the SJ season, but there have been some truly horrific NHL & NFL teams in the NHL's "modern" era and the NFL's "post-merger" era. The mid-70's give us the '74-'75 Capitals and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in '76 & '77 that went 2-26 over the franchise's 1st 2 seasons. Those squads get this vote. More recently, in the NFL, the '08 Lions went 0-16 and followed that with a 2-14 year and the '17 Browns followed up the '16 Browns 1 win season with a 0-16 season. The Losipeg Jets had an absolutely brutal 2nd season going 9-57-14. The Otters and Snarks had some truly brutal teams in the '90s.
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If any of the other parties want to have a candidate receive votes, they really should run candidates. And not simply the exact same candidate that one (or both) major parties are running. And, considering that yours truly lives in a state that at the state level in essentially a 1 party state and also at the local level essentially a 1 party town, ALWAYS vote in the primaries. For the most part, it's the only way to get one's "voice" heard.
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Just in time for him to try to check Savoie through the boards like he unsuccessfully tried to do to Benson. 😒
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Not for anyone that was running unopposed. (Figure the only way that person can lose is if even he/she doesn't vote for themself; so the only way this kid's vote could POSSIBLY matter is by not voting and hoping that individual forgets to vote or decides they really don't want the office.) The electronic ballots FINALLY don't seem to want to take issue with that. For several years got the response from the person running the machine "uh, you didn't vote in all the elections;" "yes, that's correct;" "uhhhhhhhhhhh." All the while that person has the classic "deer in the headlights" look on their face like they're pretty sure that isn't allowed but they're not quite sure what to do about it.