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It’s just that there is a tremendous amount of unjustified hand ringing over the return. No one stops to pontificate why the amazing ROR only yielded what it did. People should not blame the auctioneer when the collectible Willie Nelson plate only fetches $4.95 at auction.

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What possible knowledge do you think you would possess about Tim Murray’s efforts, or lack thereof, in helping Lehner?

Why maybe? Unless given other evidence, shouldn’t that be the default assumption?

Nobody eats their own like Buffalo.

I was a History major in college. It was the Germans that bombed Pearl Harbor.

They will get what the market will bear.

How many decades went by with the NYR trying to buy a Stanley Cup and it failed? These players aren't legos that just plug and play to form a winning team. Changing age, personal situations and environment are always changing their performance relative to the past.

There is a really nice TED talk that make s the case that the world needs fewer leaders and more first followers. Because if everyone is a leader, who exactly is doing the following? note that this is “first” follower, not just a follower. It’s having the recognition of who actually has the chops to be a real leader and throwing your suppprt behind them.

Assuming Housley is the disaster you claim, is he a static entity unable to get better at his job after two years?

If you could guarantee a Stanley Cup in nine years I would sign up for that in a heartbeat.

There probably isn’t much historical data to go back and analyze, but I think I would still take a couple seconds of him getting a stick than having to do what he did there without one. It was the third period so they were the near bench.

Not to take anything away from the Erod’s effort, I just can’t believe it is not better to just take three seconds and skate to the bench to get a stick than it is the stay out there for a minute without one.

To be fair... no one is out there now.

That’s probably not an overreaction. They are 6-6 in OT.

Given some of my OCD tendencies - a standardized GDT subject line would be 82 days of extended Christmas.

Yes.

Sigh. At the 10s mark - it is UNEQUIVOCAL that the ball did not touch 9 of his 10 fingers. The only possibility is his right thumb from the angle shown at the 10s mark. From a different angle you can see that it is does not touch, or even come close to his right hand. https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--VwZNdCJZ--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/zhzpfnipumxro3vrd3nv.mp4 Feel free to provide a single frame of evidence where it touches his hands that cannot be disproven by looking at the other angle and I will gladly donate $100 to the charity of your choice.

The video evidence was unequivocal. Edelman did not touch that ball. Not sure how you can use that as evidence of a conspiracy. That had an angle that eliminated a possible touch by every relevant body part.

I guess I did a poor job of explaining myself or maybe I just made a bad point. In neither of my posts did I refer to every day discussion. What I did try to emphasize was the situation when the goal is to force the person on the other end of the conversation to agree with a position, which I assert is an entirely different animal. At no point did I assert that simply having a discussion was not worthwhile.

I don't know where this sentiment is coming from. My point was simply to state that the act of convincing me to evaluate a game through the analytic lens bears no tangible fruit. A better example would be the hysterical Mahomes supporters who want nothing less than a complete, unconditional surrender of anyone who didn't agree with them two years ago. To what end? Why are they yelling at people? Why are they telling everyone they told you so? Why are they screaming at us how stupid the Bills are after every game the Chiefs play? I dunno Wally. I have no power.

This is a "know your audience" thing. I have to deal with this a lot on the Bills side due to the volume and the large amount of unsophisticated NFL fans that pass through. Most people want to be heard. The problem is when the audience isn't the right fit for the message. In the case of an "ugly" win, complaints about the weak, underlying fundamentals of the game would play better to a stat focused community. To the average fan? Not so much. I think most of us are here for the traditional entertainment value of the sport - the value of which increases greatly with a favorable scoresheet. The other point worth mentioning is that no one here can do *anything* about the team's analytics. Not a single thing. So, even if you convince me that the win I was previously happy about is now hot garbage, the only thing accomplished is one less happy person in the world. Yay? None of this means you have to consume your entertainment like the rest of us. To each his own. But you have to understand the room and be willing to accept that a negative reaction to the most fundamental result of sport - happiness when your side wins the game - is to be expected.

That was Kelly and Ted. Kelly had a nice, 2-minute drive one game and when he trotted off and told Ted how comfortable he was in that setting. Ted went with it. Marv hated it.

He was probably SO slow that McDavid had a hard time adjusting to something so unnaturally stationary on the ice.

It's a pretty funny feed. FWIW.