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He was qualified enough to deal Reinhart and Eichel, he knows how to pick up a telephone and dial another GM's number, he's had 6 seasons to figure it out, how you can use this as an excuse is beyond me.

I think fans are just making the reasonable assumption that after missing the playoffs by one point followed by back to back years of moving further from the playoffs, that the GM has failed to make the needed moves. What moves might have made a difference is fan speculation (I’m guilty as charged). But I refuse to believe that the situation was beyond hopeless, and that no GM could have produced a better record the past two years than Adams has. Perhaps I’m wrong and this is just as good as we can reasonably expect from the Sabres.

For the Oiler’s sake, I hope Nugent-Hopkins is just getting a day of rest. If they go down Hyman and Nugent-Hopkins, that would start to be a very tough hill to climb.

Skinner getting his shot…maybe

Lindy as POHO blocking Adams from the role based on circumstance, firing Adams, with Jarmo as GM and Deboer would immediately bring this franchise back into respectibility. That said I expect an Adams extension any day now.

Yep. He did make some good moves but needed to make so many additional moves to get a critical mass of things aligned correctly and he never came close to that. Had EVERYTHING gone right, the team might've (heck, they would've) snuck into the playoffs. In the real world everything doesn't go right and from the moment Dahlin tweaked his back 5 minutes after stepping onto the ice on the 1st day of TC things already weren't going right. When he was out for ~10 games, the season was doomed. Had he done more to address the goaltending; had he gotten Power a legit partner LAST year; had he/Ruff brought in competent ACs; had he been able to bring in say 1 more Zucker and 1 more Greenway rather than Lafferty and Aube-Kubel by spending some of the money he saved by punting Skinner; THEN MAYBE they could've survived Dahlin's injuries. But he didn't.

The Sabres (and darn near every other team as well) could absolutely use a version of Chara. Doesn't change the fact that on the ice, the original was a dirty mofo that learned what the NHL would allow him to get away with and took full advantage of it.

No way! I would guess steam is wet, but not ice. Not sure I understand wetness then, lol I did know this though: “water can simultaneously boil and freeze under specific conditions known as the triple point. This occurs at 0.01°C and 0.006 atmospheres, where all three phases of water (solid, liquid, and gas) can exist in equilibrium”

I never bought that KA over-values his prospects and won’t make deals as a result, but that’s been a theme with both media and fans alike for a while. Glad you cited Eichel for a couple reasons because imo, Eichel couldn’t be over-valued and also because the Eichel situation perfectly illustrates how teams and agents manipulate media to try and ramp up pressure on other organizations. Friedman, especially, was a big mouthpiece for the misinformation being peddled at the time.

I wonder if he could pull off another deal like the Savoie - McLeod deal with a team in cap trouble.

The pressure of a skate blade on ice makes it wet. That's science🧪.

But there is an unfounded belief that Adams has walked away from good trades because he "overvalues" his players. It's something you can't prove unless you were on the phone.

The young man is worthy of helping and my phone is open. The point I’m making is Adams was in a similar position to this young man just 4 and 5 years ago. Qualified or not at the time he took the GM position, he was being asked to do perform a very difficult job with little experience to draw from and only a few others to help. Climbing fast can be painful.

Lol...you got me to actually it up. The answer....Yes! Ice is always wet.

Nobody is saying Adams should make bad moves.

What is the difference between overvaluing your players in a trade and not accepting a deal that you think is inadequate? Does anyone recall how upset fans were that Adams didn't trade Jack Eichel right away? I'm sure other GMs saw that situation as an opportunity to pry away an elite player for practically nothing. Whether you think Tuch, Krebs and picks for Eichel was adequate value, that deal was not done in haste.

😂 That's a stretch. So make bad moves because?

Sure it's ice. It's just a phase it's going through. 😉

I accept that, but I'd also say a version of Chara is exactly what this team currently needs.

Then it’s not ice anymore. Is ice wet?

Oh please, stop. He did not make the team any better than it was. He did not address the major weaknesses and he bet solely on Ruff elevating them and his signings stepping up. Ruff didn't, Cozens didn't, Byram underwhelmed. Nothing wrong with the McLeod trade but ultimately with Cozens sucking that did not fill the hole he created trading away Mittlestadt. Malentstyn isn't anything and thus no better than Girgensens, probably worse. Lafferty and Aube Kubul were money wasted and didn't upgrade Okposo. The roster was basically the same.

I'd argue McCabe and Zadorov reached their potential. They're both top-4 guys, and can be especially effective with the correct partner. In a best-case scenario, Zadorov could be a top pair guy, but the offense was never touted as amazing, so top-4 is solid. Girgensons has been a 4th liner for over a dozen years in the NHL. He was miscast by the Sabres because they drafted him when they found themselves with no center spine, but for a mid-1st he has panned out. Grigorenko was a bust. He was also rushed, and maybe could have been more with a longer development curve and a bunch of time in Rochester. They need him to be much more and he was not that. Ristolainen is a disappointment. Another rushed prospect because he was blocked by the likes of Benoit and Meszaros. With proper coaching and a slower timeline, maybe he could have been the top-pair guy. He looked like Ivan Drago, but a boxer also needs to be a technician when they're facing well-schooled boxes of similar athletic prowess. He's always been overpaid since his second contract because he was gifted PP1 time... but he's not a bust: he's still in the league all these years later.

Again, perhaps he wasn't throwing shade at the fans for once. You can give him the benefit of the doubt if you really want to. But in this particular instance, IMHO, past performance should be considered indicative of present results.

Getting the fans to go bonkers in order to ratchet up some pressure on the Sabres is precisely the idea GMs (and agents for that matter) have in mind when it comes to the sort of media manipulation @PromoTheRobotalludes to in that particular post. Makes sense given how bonkers we fans currently are. Especially when it comes to KA over-valuing prospects and being afraid to pull the trigger on deals.