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You did a lot of research on cozens last year that was spot on. Quinn very often looked like a spectator last year. He is the one they have from the Aquino/Peteka draft unfortunately.

Here are a couple of things in defense of Luukkonen. 1.) Per MoneyPuck, Luukkonen's goals save below expected were nearly identical to that of Saros and Swayman. Both have larger track records than Luukkonen, but the connection is that those are both considered to be good goalies who posted bad #'s on bad teams. Maybe that is what Luukkonen also was last year. 2.) At his best Luukkonen is a blocker; he is a positional goalie who uses his size and lets the puck come to him and who has the athleticism to make some highlight reel saves when needed. At his worst, he is chasing the game; that is when you see him 4 feet out of his crease to the left or the right of, or behind, the net. To me, it was obvious that there was a point last season where he was being shelled night after night and where he lost confidence and over-compensated by reverting to bad habits (chasing the puck). Is that always going to be his issue? Or, can he reset in the off-season and as he matures find a way to simply play the game that he is best at? I don't know. I think he would thrive under certain coaches and in certain structures. I don't think Ruff is the right coach. Although Ruff spoke at the end of the year of being unable to blame Luukkonen until he could get the team to do a better job with puck management, I am skeptical that Ruff is a coach who can do that.

Stats of a tandem goalie. Ride the hot hand is what I hope for and UPL bouncing back to average stats can get the Sabres a few more wins.

Bottom end of backup goalie numbers. His ceiling may be 2nd half of 23/24 season but his floor needs to be above water, to be considered a starter.

Other fancy stats from Lyon last year: Goals saved above expected: 32 Save % above expected: 32 Wins above replacement: 32 Rebounds per save: 37 Lyon’s totals with the Wings were exceedingly average and don’t appear to be significantly different from James Reimer’s with the Sabres. But they were clearly better than UPL’s.

Andersson isn't good; he fell off a cliff last year and has made it known he only wants to go to Vegas. I'm not trading a top asset for 1 year of a defenseman we need to bounce back and have a snowball's chance in Hell of re-signing.

UPL’s struggles in high danger situations aren’t new. Going back to the previous season - when he ranked 17th in goals saved above expected - he was still 58th in high-danger situations. The stats show he can succeed behind a better defence, but he has not shown that he can be counted on for too many big saves. Interestingly enough, the number 6 and 7 ranked goalies in high danger save % above expected that year were Alex Lyon and Devon Levi. Lyon was 4th and Levi unranked in that stat this year.

Another somewhat under-discussed issue with last year’s team was goaltending. At risk of triggering @PromoTheRobot, Ukko Pekka Luukkonen was bad across the board, even while correcting for the play in front of him 61 goalies played 20 games last year, UPL ranked: Goals saved above expected: 51 Save % above expected: 48 Wins above replacement: 51 Rebounds per save: 46 High danger unblocked save % above expected: 58 Interestingly, UPL’s rankings were better at low- (35th) and medium- (20) danger saves. We had a team that allowed too many dangerous attempts combined with a goalie who was bad in high-danger situations.

You’re right, defense is a mindset of hard work and second effort to do the right things and to be in the proper locations. The creativity of offense is exciting and more fun to practice but the discipline required to defend is not as appealing and doesn’t pay as well.

A wonderful tribute to our GM for sure

With his speed, Peterka should be able to develop a good two-way game but defense, regardless of the sport being played, starts with burning desire and effort, so JJ needs to grow up a bit in that regard imo.

Ima give him this year he seems like he is trying to get Ruff like players he doesn't improve the team this year I am in your corner and ready to pull the trigger

I know it probably goes without saying but the new coach also brings in a whole new staff. This alone, imo, could make the difference of playoffs or no playoffs with the current 80-90 point roster. Injuries could sink this team in the fall, because it is built for everyone to play near their ceilings to get ahead. A competent NHL coaching staff could add some points in the standings by having better structure, more accountability and great mentoring.

To me, Jack Quinn brought down those numbers (high danger ones) dramatically all by himself last year: Last year with Quinn on the ice, the Sabres were a catostrophic -73 in high danger chances for vs allowed, and -13 in high danger goals for vs allowed in about 890 minutes even strength. The rest of the team combined without Quinn (including Cozens bad numbers) was a -22 in high danger chances and only a -2 in high danger goals even strength over almost 3000 minutes. Break that down on a 'per 60' minute basis: (taking into account both offense getting those chances and defense preventing them) Quinn: -4.92 high danger chances per 60, (one of the worst in the league for a regular player) -0.88 high danger goals per 60 (one of worst for regular player) Rest of team: -0.44 high danger chances/60. (close to league average) -0.04 high danger goals per 60 (close to league average) Just on the Defensive side of things, the team with Quinn on the ice allowed 12.7 high danger chances per 60. The rest of the team when he wasn't on the ice allowed 11.2 high danger chances per 60. Goals allowed: Quinn on the ice, Sabres allowed 3.02 goals per 60 even strength. Entire rest of team without Quinn: 2.73 goals allowed per 60 even strength. The going to the net part is an issue. High danger shots (shots taken form in front of the net, basically less than 6 feet out): Thompson: 15.7% (number would probably be higher but is brought down by his one timers out of that zone on the PP) Tuch: 33.3% high danger Peterka: 21.4% Zucker: 39.2% McCleod: 37.1% Kulich: 29.1% And....Quinn? 8.1%. 10 total shots. Basically he went to the front of the net and got a shot off once every 2 weeks or so. The rest of the team got the puck to the high danger areas, got shots off, and did a decent job of keeping the puck away from that area on defense. Jack Quinn Single handedly brought all those numbers down from middle of the pack and dropped the averages close to league bottom. As per my above post..I wouldn't be surprised if Jack Quinn alone brought down those numbers for the rest of the team in some of those categories. Remove Jack Quinn, or "fix" his game, and alot of this looks 'better' by doing nothing else other than that.

Well, if we are gonna read the editorial opinion of John Hinderaker’s The Center of the American Experiment, then in an effort to provide a balanced editorial response, I submit this article from The Center for American Progress (much like our long-repealed Fairness Doctrine demanded): https://www.americanprogress.org/article/fact-sheet-trumps-rescission-request-would-slash-spending-on-foreign-assistance-programs-that-benefit-american-interests/

So he didn't like the losing culture to which he contributed to.

Peterka Quotes: He wants to be part of a young core, apparently just not in Buffalo. “When you look at the roster, how many young players are there who are already so good. I think, just like timeline-wise for me, it’s going to be a perfect fit. Growing together with those guys and hopefully winning a lot of games,” Peterka said. “I think the team has a lot of skill. The speed they play with got me most excited. How quick they move the puck, and that they have some serious players that can make a lot of good plays. That was pretty cool to watch.” He is training hard in the off season, not sure if he was in Buffalo. “I think there’s still a lot left. That’s why I have to work hard every day,” Peterka said. “I told them I’m going to work my ass off in the offseason.” He is excited to play for a coach that demands a two way game, apparently just not Lindy Ruff who also demanded a two-way game. “I talked to Quinn, actually, a lot about [Tourigny],” Peterka said. “He really liked him as a coach and as a person. He said he’s a hard coach but a really good coach. That got me really excited.” What went wrong in Buffalo (the losing aside)? He probably does not see a commitment to win from management. “I think that just shows how committed I am to Utah, how excited I am. And how much I believe in that group, what they’ve got going and what they’re building there,” Peterka said. “That’s why I decided to do that. Super excited now to meet all the guys and get things going.”

Diving deeper into other Sabre high danger rankings: Rebound shots for 27th Expected rebound shots for 19th Rebound shots against 28th Expected rebound shots against 21st Rebound goals for 22nd Rebound goals against 32nd High danger shots for 27th High danger shots against 21st I mean, we knew it, but it’s worth seeing it spelled out: the Sabres biggest problem 5 on 5 is they don’t get to the net, and they don’t stop people from getting to the net.

I was curious to see what the fancystats said about the team as a whole last year, since those are supposed to paint a better picture of how “true” a team’s record is: GF%: 50.14 16th xG%: 47.41 27th SA% 49.77 17th The Sabres were pretty much dead average in terms of territorial play, and at putting more pucks in the net than the other team. They were absolutely terrible at getting the puck into high danger areas while stopping the opponent from doing the same.

I keep refreshing each day to see if there is a new thread or something breaking, alas, nada. I don't follow the off-season as closely but I think most of the impact players are now gone no? Aside from a trade at this point, this is what we're coming into the season with... Not sure this gets us where we need to be.

Indeed goaltending is a big factor and a key reason to be skeptical. Lyon and UPL, maybe Levi, that is what we have. Last season we counted on UPL to emerge and he did not. New year, seems hard to predict what they will do.

So what. He kept Armstrong, right? Armstong's record of failure for making the playoffs is second only to Adams. If Pegula sold the Sabres and the new owner kept Kevyn Adams as GM, would you think the new owner is good?

I just said the same thing in another thread so we’re thinking alike.‘I said I think this team is slightly better overall and ends up in the mid to high 80s in points. Jaro takes over as GM and chooses his own coach

I’m not saying anything that hasn’t often been stated that regardless what has been done unless we get consistent level of solid goaltending the Sabres will again be a floundering team. Is our GT unit capable of rising to the occasion? I’m not sure. Can UPL become a solid #1 goalie? Not sure. Looking back, the departure of Ullmark has never adequately been accounted for. That is an gross failure by the GM.

I think the goaltending situation is slightly better as is the defense (if they keep Byram). I think Forwards are the same (for different analytical reasons) to slightly worse. I do not think this is a playoff team - remember they’d have to be 16 points or so better than last year and, for the most part, the teams immediately on front of them in the standings got betters. so, I would imagine the team ends up in the mid to high 80s, doesn’t make the playoffs, Adams and Ruff aren’t retained, Jaro Becomes GM and choices his own coach