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Tantrums are ubiquitous. They spill over all the threads. With respect to adding Timmins and dispatching Clifton, if this is more of a financial than a personnel transaction, I will be furious. I can't comment on what this trade does for the team because I'm not familiar with this player. What I'm expecting is another deal or two that will upgrade the roster. If there isn't much of a follow up by the GM, then I will place the blame on the owner.

Everything I ever hear about Marner is that he either is looking for or should be looking for shorter term so he can cash out on the bigger cap coming up. If he signs for anything less than 8 years, I have no idea why he would work with Toronto/Vegas on this.

To anyone upset about this trade... Check all the advanced and not-so advanced stats. Timmins is a good 3rd pair D. Clifton wasn't. All the Leafs fans I know liked him. Sounds like Pens fans liked him too. I don't think anyone anywhere has liked Clifton. Lots of reasons to be upset with the team so I get the frustration, but this is a small win for us.

Correct - only makes sense if they use the extra cap space and historically they are not a cap team. kA prove me wrong b1tch

I don't have any issues with this pick. In the very least he will balance out Rochester's team balance eventually. Maybe make the NHL and be a solid bottom guy.

Have you not seen the Sabres D moves? Also didn't Philly trade for Zegras?

And still got that exact thing in round 3

I'm fine with it. According to my ex-roommate from Pittsburgh I texted, he's very good on D. Solid guy. I lied to him about Clifton.. 😁 Keep trading. Bet they're not done at all.

Just saw some videos of Aitcheson. Let’s trade Mrtka for that guy.

Robertson is not a free agent.

Except he passed on some big (and mean) RHD at the top of the round to trade for cast off RHD and he shipped out our own tiny RHD and dumped the soft one last year so are we actually any better???

Rimpinen to Kings as no 152. I consider that a steel.

This trade is a confusing head scratcher for me. I could almost understand trading Clifton for Timmins, but then trading a 2nd round pick for an ECHL defenseman doesn't make sense. I think Pittsburgh got the better side of the trade for sure. Kevyn Adams is dumping salary successfully and Pegula seems fine with that.

Philly going big, mean and nasty all over the place. Broad Street Bullies might be coming back. Talk about a team thinking opposite to the Sabres.

Isn't Timmins the guy the Bruins absolutely destroyed in the playoffs and hence Leafs dumped him? I might be remembering the wrong guy, but if that's him he was BAD. I don't know much else about them. Clifton would have been better to be a deadline dump and I bet you Pittsburgh gets at least a 2nd for him at the deadline but whatever. I liked the D depth with Clifton at the bottom better than now but I guess our quota for guys who hit on D is one max. aside - (Only the Sabres however. Only the Sabres could produce a video with Alex Tuch telling a kid he gets to announce the 2nd round pick and then turn around and trade away the 2nd round pick so the kid announces the 3rd rounder. It was a nice moving story and which pick it is probably doesn't matter to the kid who gets the insiders tour and all that but really? Bush league with the video. )

"Arguably the most violent player in the class, with the mobility, reach, defensive traits, and bloodlust to develop into a tremendous play killer.” EP

At this rate Rome wouldn't be built yet

Samuel Meloche is not related to former California Golden Seals goalie Gilles Meloche.

I do not believe Kekäläinen would be a part of the organisation if there is an internal cap. Every trade probably still needs mr Pegulas blessing. That way Pegula can keep control. That is what I think. They still need improvment on every positions so I hope I am right. Otherwise there is only small chances to playoffs imo.

I'm not apologizing for him, I just don't care about 2nd round picks after 14yrs of no playoffs.

Bolded- I'm actually good with that too. There are a lot of veteran NHL dmen that get multi year 4-5m contracts for being just that

Not this year.

At least it seems they realize this and are actively starting to address it. Rome wasn't built in a day. lol

Since when? You were bitching and moaning all season long with the rest of us. How quick we forget!

Agree. While I do like watching the games, for me the 'building of the team' is almost as fun, sometimes more fun than the games themselves. There are race car drivers, and their are mechanics that build the race care. More often I find myself a bit more interested in watching the car get built and learning how its built than always watching the guy drive it in circles for 3 hours.