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Anybody see any similarity between Danforth’s game and Benson? I’m hoping for more offensive upside with Benson over time BTW

Orlov signing in San Jose makes me think he'd have played anywhere for the money. Picking up Leddy might work for them too. Short term vets while your youth develop, what a concept.

Yes, you might as well start this. We're going to be top 10.

So you’re saying that Kaleta’s 27-27-54 over 348 games ISN’T “definitely better” than Danforth’s 31-33-62 in 183 games?

Fowler would be a nice veteran presence to add to the D core, his best days are behind him, but he would be valuable especially for a young Buffalo team, id assume they need Fowler in the deal to offset the cap of Byrams new deal. The only thing is Fowler has a partial no move so would he waive? He may have played with Kesserling and Doan and Tage at worlds I dont know? His partial no move is why I leaned to Kessel or Broberg in previous trade ideas Neighbors is the opposite of Peterka, a hard working no nonsense winger, he would be a major add Byram, Östlund and a pick if necessary for Neighbors and Fowler

Adams: “Hey Terry I need to go the washroom you think that’s OK?” Pegula: “1 or 2?” Adams: “It’s going to be a number two. Might be a while” Pegula: “OK go ahead. And Kevyn, thanks for keeping me in the loop. Communication is key here with the Buffalo Sabres

Kaleta played 5 games for the Sabres in '13-'14 and 7 in Ra-cha-cha. Girgensons was a rookie that scored 8 goals in 70 games. And he was in the top 6 that year. He wasn't the solid 4th liner he'd eventually become at that point. Grigorenko shouldn't have been anywhere near that team, he once again wasn't ready, and only played 18 games as a Sabre that year. Larsson was still a rookie that year too.

Imagine the hope they would create if they traded next years first rounder (lottery protected of course) for a legit NHL player? it won't happen though. Sabres are a draft and develop team. bottom feeders for the rest of the league only real hope is to luck into the playoffs on the back of a goalie that gets hot for A couple of months.

Thankfully for Adams what we say means sh*t all and all he has the automatic out, whether we like or not not, of being able to shove it in our faces by simply winning oh wait If adams and his defenders are sick of us running up the score, he can, ya know, stop it. but he didn’t. 5 years.

Stop apologizing for this clown show. Agreed. And has zero accountability for his own mistakes.

None of what you wrote here is accurate, other than Norris being a wildcard. The rest is flat out nonsense. Benson should be AHL based on production... you realize Steve Ott had 1 more goal and like 10 more assists than Benson? I mean what the ***** are we even doing here. Nonsense.

After Jeffries pointless waste of time, the house finally voted and passed the bill, and Trump will soon sign it into law. The bill is out there for public consumption and I'm sure we have some educated men on here that will read it. What do you hate about it, or like about it, and why?

I just have this feeling that Rosen is gonna be a bust / career AHLer. Hope not, but it's looking that way.

Y'all keep spelling Bear wrong but yes Mrtka has a lot of upside.

The “just trade futures” thing has been totally obvious for a while I completely agree. We just used our 1st round pick, of course, a draft selection. But that’s ok we still have next year’s*, and one the year after. Prospect pool is dumbfoundingly thin but not empty, especially at D, we need to rebuild it anyways so if we need to deal one of the few high-end prospects we do have to fortify the roster in the direction we should have been for a long time (with an eye towards winning now), it’ll only buy us time to rebuild it overall if we actually, for once, have some “current winning” breathing room and not every up and coming prospect is counted on to fill a key role. Draft picks, up to and including our best ones. Helenius. Östlund. And below them re:prospects. Sheesh, even Kulich if we got creative: we don’t HAVE to slot that sort of inexperience at 1C. He’s still essentially a prospect. Those are valued assets that can be used as the currency we need - we didn’t/haven’t upgraded yet this summer. And like @dudaceksays we almost never do or seemingly attempt to.

It will be interesting. People talked a lot about McQueen’s back injury, but setting that aside, as a player he reminded me of Kirby Dach. I preferred Mrtka.

Yes…..Adams is simply using Tuch as an excuse for not spending to the cap. It’s not true for 2026, but Kevyn needs any excuse he can for not spending TP’s money. This team simply LIES about anything to justify it’s incompetence.

Dont see the Blues interested in Krebs after signing Suter but I do see a Neighbours and Fowler combo as very much something the Sabres would focus on. Pretty much exactly

I’d put the McLeod deal in and take the Norris deal out

😘 Nice talking to you.

Neighbors, Fowler & a lottery protected 1st for Byram, Krebs and our 26 3rd (Stole this from a guy on Twitter)

Storbak, Mertka, and Robrock? I could live with that.

You can't say Norris is better than anybody. Until proven otherwise he's Tim Connolly 2.0. There's an extremely likely possibility that at 26, he's near the end of his career. He's had 3 years of shoulder injuries. Zucker is not definitively better than Ott. He scores more, but Ott was a more physical presence. Comparing Quinn and Girgensons is stupid, but no he isn't. Girgensons was very reliable and often the best player in our bottom 6. Doan is unknown. he might not even be an NHL level talent. Kaleta was definitely better than Danforth thus far. Benson should be in the AHL absed on production thus far. Kulich is not yet on par with Ennis who was a routine 20G scorer. Thompson + Tuch + McLeod is probably slightly better than Vanek + Stafford + Girgensons at that point int heir careers. But the rest of our group is a mess. Cool. None of that is relevant, because we have no idea who will play the most games this year. Maybe adams does a firesale in october -february like we did in 2013. All you can judge is the plan going into the year.

This is a trade that most likely benefits both teams. We dealt a good young player for two players that not only can help us but will help alter the mix to toughen up the unit. Even if JJP is arguably the best player in the transaction that doesn't mean that the Sabres won't benefit more from the deal because we addressed a greater need area. What's still hovering over this team is the Byram issue. If he is traded and the return is a top two-line player, then the JJP trade looks even better. The irony is that there was a loud call to toughen up the roster. The JJP trade helps in that area. Trades are not an act of charity. You have to give up something of value to get something back of value.

The list I posted was the 12 forwards who played the most games that year. Vanek played 13 games. Weird that you’re hanging your hat on the likes of end-of-the-line Pat Kaleta and “physical”!? Mikhail Grigorenko, but they played 5 and 18 games respectively and combined for 3 points. The entire group you posted combined for 77 goals, or 3 less than just Tuch and Tage combined. That team finished with 27 points less than this year’s team despite having Ryan Miller in goal. If you want to follow @thorny’s lead and say you liked that forward group more, fill your boots. But by no objective measure is it better. Not even close