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Agree. If they can trade UPL, I don't think 'waiting it out' to get the best offer is going to make much of a difference. I think his worth on the trade market is pretty low, and that isn't going to change. The value in moving him is not in the return you get, but in any potential cap space relief, just getting rid of one goalie when you have so many between Buffao and rochester, and not having to use an extra roster spot in Buffalo for 3 goalies. If you could Move UPL and get that cap space, an extra roster spot, room for the exisiting guys to play more, and a mid round draft pick...I might say that mid round pick is the least valuable to the team now. I want those other things 'yesterday', and If that isn't possible, give them to me no later than 'today'.

I hope so, this is a business and doing doing your job should get you taken out of the lineup for more than 1 game. Anyone saying he is young... he is a full grown adult making lots of money.

Pretty much If we win tomorrow as well as the Ducks beat Boston The Division will look like this DET 20 GP - 25pts BOS 22 GP - 24pts MTL 19 GP - 23pts TBL 19 GP - 22pts OTT 19 GP - 22pts FLA 19 GP - 21pts TOR 20 GP - 20pts BUF 20 GP - 20pts That is absurdly close

I just don't want Adams to try to "win the trade". Just make the deal to make the team better now.

He won't be 27 when the contract expires. His status likely comes down to whether or not Byram was on the active roster (including injuries) for 40+ games his first two seasons when he only appeared in 19 and 30 games respectively. If he didn't "accrue" a season in either of those season, then he's an RFA. If he accrued seasons in both of those years he's a UFA. Given those were COVID years and he spent a great deal of time on the taxi squad, who knows what his actual status is.

Is it not 27 or seven accrued NHL seasons to reach UFA status? Which he would have after next year. Even though only 26. Puck Pedia shows UFA is expiratory status.

According to Capwages.com Byram is an RFA with Arb rights at the end of this contract in 2027. https://capwages.com/players/bowen-byram

Here is the Evolving Hockey comparisons Neither one truly separates themselves. Although Power and Kesselring did look really good together in a very small sample size. Power is cost controlled for a longer period of time as Byram is an UFA at the end of his current contract I would still move Byram if I choose between the two

What happened to the guy who blanked us, Joel Hofer? Turned back into a pumpkin?

People seem to automatically conclude Kevyn does horrible trades. The Mitts trade was fairly good, so was the McLeod and JJP (although both of these will have to play out over the next 5 years). The Eichel trade was the best we could get - but if we have to argue this one, the real argument should be what led up to it. The Sammy trade is interesting. I always thought he was about to break out, especially given how well he played his final season here. But, he wanted to leave and given this, I’m sure Adams got what he could. I bet there are 31 other teams who wish they bid higher. Point your fingers at them. The Norris trade? I don’t know how this will eventually turn out. We got damaged goods. Cozens seems to be doing OK in Ottawa (14 pts in 19 gp) but still is -10. At least they have a real player, I suppose. Either way, both have bad contracts.

Details schmetails.

Josh Dunne, hits, fights and has an AAV of 775k.

I believe the window to get the best return and settle the goalie issue is open now while there are still players out with injuries. You waive UPL and he makes it through his value is virtually forever tarnished by that. It would take a long time and a consistent level of play UPL has barely managed once before to recover. GMKA needs to trade him now for whatevers and take what Adams would consider an ego punch, although, ironically, smart Sabres fans would actually appreciate the move.

Yes, UPL to the Blues rescue! 🤣

It's a team effort. Fairburn calls it Kev-mo. 🤣

And hardmans slot may be taken by Coleman? Maybe not, perhaps they keep him inactive and just elevate codrington.

Always worry about injuries but if you can trade UPL and one of Ellis or Lyon gets hurt, you call up Levi. If Ellis or Lyon fall off a cliff, you call up Levi. It’s not rocket science except for probably Adams

I am certain they are listening for offers on goalies right now. But they aren't going to fire sale them.

Except for one 3 month period, UPL has proven to be a below replacement level goalie, not counting his last year in juniors. He’s not becoming the next ullmark

Don't make it about his performance? It's entirely about his performance.

Nate Danielson scored a goal for the Red Wings by dragging the puck around the goalie and tucking it into the goal... and Mickey Redmond described it as "scored a goal like Tage Thompson." 🙂 But then they said it was offside.

Then again, UPL has one clean OT and 5 frame shoot out win. Ellis can’t say the same.

I'm thinking forward not creating crises. If you are a good GM you can't wait for the crisis, you have to think ahead about what is coming and what you need. You know there will be extra roster players very soon. You also see you just lost your D man for "an extended time" so if you want to compete seriously you make a move. You at least try and look for opportunities. I don't want to blow a season on any sort of if only they'd................

Fair points. My only q is: if Ellis keeps is play up, and I see no reason why he can’t given his style, and Lyon regresses just a little (it’s started already) but is still a decent 1B, what happens to Levi next year? I guess you could trade him but not sure what you’d get? If Ellis is really the real deal, there’s not much use for Levi as this 3 goalie thing is idiotic Played the last 2 games, will play again cs Calgary tomorrow and we have 2 other goalies who need work. Pretty obvious

Consistency is exactly the issue though. That's why he is garbage. You don't get that consistency or effort. Not just game to game, sometimes in the same game. If I'm the coach I want guys who I can rely on. Guys that give me whatever they give all the time and every shift.