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Quenville certainly knew about what was happening (and didn’t do anything), but he wasn’t the person accused of the act. This isn’t to say Q is a great guy; I wouldn’t want him to run the Sabres. I just don’t feel comfortable with any of these people, guilty or not. This wasn’t something completely fabricated like the Duke lacrosse players. Something happened that night, legal or not, that many of us wouldn’t take part in. Pass.

What is the point in signing before arbitration unless you think the results would yield a potentially higher AAV award? So was he somehow going to get MORE than $2.2M annually if they let it play out? Or just bad negotiating by Adams…again? If I assume he was a portion of the second round pick collateral to Pittsburgh (Clifton cap dump being the other), and if JBD would have gone to arbitration and that process yielded say $1.5m- $1.8m, are the Sabres better off with Timmons at $2.2m or with JBD, the draft capital (whatever it may be) plus the additional cap space (not that it would be used)?

That’s what we call moving the goalposts.

Yeah, hopefully you're going after more of the Sam Adams Cherry Wheat than today's fruit bombs. Cherry Wheat is probably the beer that fully opened the path to non-lager drinking. I was drinking some craft before then but once out of college things changed. Playing hockey late nights and then going to Doc and Den's in Tonawanda, they always had Cherry Wheat and I got onto that and never looked back. I haven't had one of those in a long time now and I have no desire to either.

Signing Timmins while releasing JBD but keeping Bryson is still incompetent.

lol gotchu now. 🍻

So are we still outraged and using the arbitration filing as a sign of front office incompetence?

Exactly…on every point.

Ok, guess the roster is set

lol I like Bo as a player, but who was signing him for $11M? Plus give up two firsts, a second, and a third? I know you’re not a GMKA guy, but I absolutely don’t buy into the offer sheet hype as the reason why the Sabres were not aggressive with their cap space.

If Adams hadn’t done that, we would have been so screwed if Byram had received an $11 million offer-sheet.

A little high AAV but I still like it, I think he is gonna be really solid 5 million left, have to sign Levi. Still room for a Roslovic or a mid level top 6 add

Quite honestly, I’d take a similar view for Ottawa too. Things are different when a player gets a full offseason and training camp with a new team.

Saved a bit more than a million bucks by moving Clifton out and inserting Timmons to the third pair. Kevyn always be saving.

Move out Quinn and they have over $8 million in space to add a legit veteran top-6 forward.

That's a bit more than this kid expected, but not completely out of line. (Was expecting more like $1.5MM.) Leaves them just a bit over $5MM with a full 23 player roster. Now go get Roslovic or make another move.

Sorry to post this so late, Brian passed away on June 11th. I figured if Hulk Hogan and Ozzy deserve a thread, Brian Wilson definitely should have one. A musical genius, in my opinion as well as in the opinion of people like Paul McCartney, Elton John, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, etc. Pet Sounds always ranks in the top 3 “Greatest Albums of All-Time”. Perhaps greatest vocal arranger in the history of rock. And a lifelong inspiration to me.

UPL has to be better. He can’t let his confidence and technique slip so easily if he wants to be a good NHL goalie. But… When Ruff got to Dallas, his goalie was Kari Lehtonen. Lehtonen’s career save % was .912. Without Ruff it was .914. With Ruff .908. One season post-Ruff .912. (Note: league wide, save %’s were higher then). When Ruff got to Jersey, his goalie was Mackenzie Blackwood. Career save % .906. Without Ruff .909. With Ruff .889. Post-Ruff .905. UPL career .898. Without Ruff .904. With Ruff .887. Maybe a coincidence. But we might need to see UPL with a different coach and/or team to know how good he is.

We literally have not experienced the change from Cozens to Norris. The latter only played 3 games.

That wouldn't be another change as we've already experienced that change. With rosters of 23, each new player is of at least some consequence.

Today's politics are much different. It's become a blood sport where the issue becomes dominating the opposition and shutting them out. The fuel is anger. What's lost is the ability to listen. I'm a strong believer that you learn more from people who you disagree with than you do with only listening to people who agree with you. It expands your horizons/perspectives. It seems everyone is in their own closed silo with little desire to open the door to alternative views.

I guess it's mostly harmless, although it's very reminiscent of today's politics.

I suppose, but particular judgments will be proven more or less correct or not by how the future plays out. So far, the bleak side is on a fourteen year winning streak. Let's hope the ridiculous odds for even a badly run team missing the playoffs that length of time finally tilt in favor of the long-suffering fans. (Unless, of course, one secretly blames the fans, and believe they deserve it. There are the odd sadists out there who think like that.)