Canuck’s interested in trading vets - Sportnets.ca reports

[GASabresIUFAN]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canucks-listening-to-trade-offers-on-veteran-players/
 

Any interest? Filip Hronek?  
 

Rumors also have Quinn Hughes on the block.  I assume the rumor mill feels he wants to come East to play with his brothers in NJ.  
 

[Archie Lee]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canucks-listening-to-trade-offers-on-veteran-players/
 

Any interest? Filip Hronek?  
 

Rumors also have Quinn Hughes on the block.  I assume the rumor mill feels he wants to come East to play with his brothers in NJ.  
 

Garland and Sherwood have no current trade protection. Garland has a long deal that won’t age well though. Forbort (injured at present) might be a good 7th D. Other than those 3, all of their vets have trade protection or injury history (Chytyl). I think Sherwood and Forbort would be good adds (I don’t know if Forbort’s injury is long-term serious). 

[elijah]

Disagree on Garland’s long term deal not aging well. Strong analytic guy with good middle 6/borderline 2nd line production. Getting paid $6M through 2031, by 2031 $6M will be the new $3M-$4M. 

Kulich for Garland straight up is a trade I would take. Garland is a guy that signals to your locker room that you’re taking competing seriously, and even if it doesn’t immediately pay off in playoffs this year it’s still a guy that helps long term. To shape this roster into a more serious NHL team, eventually one of Kulich/Östlund/Rosen will need to go for a veteran guy that helps immediately and Garland is one of those guys. Most importantly, he’s one of those guys and he doesn’t have trade protection. 

I doubt Adams would do it because he’s a lame duck, but it’d do wonders for this team.

[Archie Lee]

24 minutes ago, elijah said:

Disagree on Garland’s long term deal not aging well. Strong analytic guy with good middle 6/borderline 2nd line production. Getting paid $6M through 2031, by 2031 $6M will be the new $3M-$4M. 

Kulich for Garland straight up is a trade I would take. Garland is a guy that signals to your locker room that you’re taking competing seriously, and even if it doesn’t immediately pay off in playoffs this year it’s still a guy that helps long term. To shape this roster into a more serious NHL team, eventually one of Kulich/Östlund/Rosen will need to go for a veteran guy that helps immediately and Garland is one of those guys. Most importantly, he’s one of those guys and he doesn’t have trade protection. 

I doubt Adams would do it because he’s a lame duck, but it’d do wonders for this team.

On further consideration, I agree. I can’t see Adams making such a trade. 

[ponokasabre]

40 minutes ago, elijah said:

Disagree on Garland’s long term deal not aging well. Strong analytic guy with good middle 6/borderline 2nd line production. Getting paid $6M through 2031, by 2031 $6M will be the new $3M-$4M. 

Kulich for Garland straight up is a trade I would take. Garland is a guy that signals to your locker room that you’re taking competing seriously, and even if it doesn’t immediately pay off in playoffs this year it’s still a guy that helps long term. To shape this roster into a more serious NHL team, eventually one of Kulich/Östlund/Rosen will need to go for a veteran guy that helps immediately and Garland is one of those guys. Most importantly, he’s one of those guys and he doesn’t have trade protection. 

I doubt Adams would do it because he’s a lame duck, but it’d do wonders for this team.

This would be an excellent trade, Garland plays exactly like Benson and Doan and Kozak, in fact he probably is more fiesty then all 3, he is always in front of the net and is an ass to play against. He plays just like Brendan Galagher. 

I suggested on another site we trade Östlund for Garland, but I would trade Kulich too, either one is fine by me. There isnt room for both of those players moving forward, especially is Thompson is gonna be 1 center and Norris as 2. Vancouver wants centers so either one of these players would interest them. I just dont know if they trade for Kulich when he is injured, so thats why I thought Östlund.

This would be very similiar to the Savoie Mcloed deal so we know KA has made a deal like this before. I think an Östlund/Kulich would be a very good deal for Vancouver. 

Would mean we would likely have to move out some cap to fit this in the future, especially with Tuch hopefully resigned. Might mean UPL needs to go.

[elijah]

I saw another report outlining the Canucks interest in Byram as a Hughes replacement if they were to trade him. Unfortunately I mindlessly scrolled past it, so I don’t have a link.

However I’d also be very interested in a Byram + ?? for a Garland + Marcus Pettersson type of deal. I think bottom line, this team needs more Garland’s (Doan’s, Benson’s, etc.) and that he would be a terrific add 

Edited 4 hours ago by elijah

[GASabresIUFAN]

Kulich isn’t tradable right now and I don’t think the Sabres would trade him if they could.  Until the blood clots are resolved he isn’t going anywhere and he is an effort player like Doan and Benson and we don’t have enough of those.  

Garland is an interesting idea.  A long-term Zucker replacement ?  I don’t think he’d cost as much as Kulich (if healthy).  The Sabres actually have a slight cap issue right now if Norris and Danforth are returning this season.  Some contracts need to be heading back to Van to make the numbers work.  I’d start a deal with Krebs and a 2nd rd pick or Wahlberg.  If they want Rosen, then Krebs Rosen for Garland and a draft pick.  I think Rosen proved he is a viable middle six forward during this call up which should have increased his trade value.

My biggest question is does Garland fill a need now? We still need real goaltending and defensive help.  I like to see management focus on improving those areas before forward.  

 

Edited 51 minutes ago by GASabresIUFAN

[PromoTheRobot]

4 hours ago, elijah said:

Disagree on Garland’s long term deal not aging well. Strong analytic guy with good middle 6/borderline 2nd line production. Getting paid $6M through 2031, by 2031 $6M will be the new $3M-$4M. 

Kulich for Garland straight up is a trade I would take. Garland is a guy that signals to your locker room that you’re taking competing seriously, and even if it doesn’t immediately pay off in playoffs this year it’s still a guy that helps long term. To shape this roster into a more serious NHL team, eventually one of Kulich/Östlund/Rosen will need to go for a veteran guy that helps immediately and Garland is one of those guys. Most importantly, he’s one of those guys and he doesn’t have trade protection. 

I doubt Adams would do it because he’s a lame duck, but it’d do wonders for this team.

 

3 hours ago, Archie Lee said:

On further consideration, I agree. I can’t see Adams making such a trade. 

What about Jarmo Kekalainen? 

[Archie Lee]

9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

What about Jarmo Kekalainen? 

Do you know something I don’t?  

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

Do you know something I don’t?  

It seems fairly obvious at this stage that Jarmo is the Gm in waiting. 

[Doohickie]

4 hours ago, ponokasabre said:

especially is Thompson is gonna be 1 center and Norris as 2.

When Norris is fully recovered he will be 1C and Tage will be back to the wing.  Mark it.

[Doohickie]

52 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

It seems fairly obvious at this stage that Jarmo is the Gm in waiting. 

And to an extent, the acting GM.

[Taro T]

11 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

When Norris is fully recovered he will be 1C and Tage will be back to the wing.  Mark it.

Well that is 180 degrees from what Ruff said he plans on doing next week when Norris shows back up; but we shall see.

[PerreaultForever]

Reading stuff on twitter about Tuch's wife being from BC. That could be a thing. Byram is another name they apparently like.

Quinn for Power as the primaries? That would interest me depending on details. 

My dream, Quinn Hughes, Petersson and Garland for Quinn, Norris, Power. Tuch (and whatever picks/prospects make that happen).

I'd like to keep Tuch, but I don't want to pay him 8 years at 11.5 as rumored and I don't want him gone for nothing. Quinn, Power and Norris are all players who disappoint me regularly in one way or another so any of them can go and I'd welcome it.

50 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Well that is 180 degrees from what Ruff said he plans on doing next week when Norris shows back up; but we shall see.

If it's me I'm bumping Krebs out of the line up. Norris is 2C, McLeod goes back to 3C and Kozak stays on the grind line. When Kulich comes back something else will have to give. 

[Crusader1969]

35 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Reading stuff on twitter about Tuch's wife being from BC. That could be a thing. Byram is another name they apparently like.

Quinn for Power as the primaries? That would interest me depending on details. 

My dream, Quinn Hughes, Petersson and Garland for Quinn, Norris, Power. Tuch (and whatever picks/prospects make that happen).

I'd like to keep Tuch, but I don't want to pay him 8 years at 11.5 as rumored and I don't want him gone for nothing. Quinn, Power and Norris are all players who disappoint me regularly in one way or another so any of them can go and I'd welcome it.

If it's me I'm bumping Krebs out of the line up. Norris is 2C, McLeod goes back to 3C and Kozak stays on the grind line. When Kulich comes back something else will have to give. 

You would trade all that just to see Hughes walk in a year ?   
he's been quite open to wanting to play with his brothers in NJ 

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, Archie Lee said:

Do you know something I don’t?  

I thought everyone knew Jarmo Kekalainen was advising the Sabres? 

There are multiple reports that Jarmo and Kevyn have been scouting games, and other scouts and the occasional GM come to Sabres games. Could be nothing, could be something.

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, Doohickie said:

And to an extent, the acting GM.

Co-GM more likely, for now.

[PerreaultForever]

49 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

You would trade all that just to see Hughes walk in a year ?   
he's been quite open to wanting to play with his brothers in NJ 

that implies an extension. 

[Doohickie]

2 hours ago, Taro T said:

Well that is 180 degrees from what Ruff said he plans on doing next week when Norris shows back up; but we shall see.

I don't expect Norris at 1C immediately but I think Tage will eventually move back to wing.

On the other hand I don't see Lindy making changes as long as Tage & Co. are scoring/dominating.  

So maybe you're right.

23 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Co-GM more likely, for now.

Po TAY to, Po TAH to.  You're probably right though:  It's more of a partnership, but Kevyn is still the public face.