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Sabres Trade JJ Peterka to Utah for Defenseman Michael Kesselring and Forward Josh Doan


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10 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Absolutely nonsense 

The trade is bad because the object was to save money 

YOU DONT TRADE A STAR FORWARD TO FIND A PARTNER FOR YOUR FIRST OVERALL PICK 

You're right: I don't. But, Kehvyn Ahdahms just did.

 

Yooooùuurrr Buff-alo Say-burrrrs!

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

The players coming to Buffalo are fine. The acquisition cost is not 

This 

like I’m not sure people are getting the point that discussing how it “could” work are being blindsided. It’s like buying 10 lotto tickets and trading them to someone for 3 and saying “well, one of the 3 could hit”

I say this respectfully: who the f*ck cares

It’s so far beyond the point. Yes, that could happen. But that we “could win” wasn’t the focus of the trade, that’s the silver lining of a move that’s priority was to save money. 

we indisputably made a bad trade we knew would make us worse to save money. 

“they could get lucky”‘isn’t a discussion point. They made us worse on purpose - talk about that 

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3 minutes ago, krakensabr56390 said:

Peterka is a good fwd be he is not a star - we need to stop exaggerating 60-70 pt one dimensional player. He has a lot to prove to be a a star - or will be a Jeff skinner 2.0. Would you be mad getting the return we got for Jeff skinner in his youth knowing what he is? If they actually spend the money they have from doing this ( big if) it’s these 2 guys plus another 5 million dollar player 

 

we have a few guys that can turn into another JJ in the pipeline but no one like the 2 guys we just got.

 

Jeff Skinner is a former 40 goal and routine 30 goal scorer. If having him on your team makes you unable to win, the problem is with your team, as it has been at each one of his stops. If Peterka's future is Skinner, every member of the FO should be escorted from the building for this trade.

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6 minutes ago, krakensabr56390 said:

Peterka is a good fwd be he is not a star - we need to stop exaggerating 60-70 pt one dimensional player. He has a lot to prove to be a a star - or will be a Jeff skinner 2.0. Would you be mad getting the return we got for Jeff skinner in his youth knowing what he is? If they actually spend the money they have from doing this ( big if) it’s these 2 guys plus another 5 million dollar player 

 

we have a few guys that can turn into another JJ in the pipeline but no one like the 2 guys we just got.

 

Burner 

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Posted

Kesselring one season and then move him when his cost is too high as an RFA?

It’s the same trade as Mitts-Byram. Get one year of a player at a time. 

Announce the end of EEE and then get a real GM. You want to be a hockey owner and win the Cup, don’t you?

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Posted

I just had gallbladder removal surgery yesterday, so if anyone is planning on organizing a fan revolt/protest, can you save it for after the Byram deal? I'll need a week or two to recover and I really want in!

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

The players coming to Buffalo are fine. The acquisition cost is not 

I think that’s my initial reaction?

The deal pretty much exactly matches the concept of what I wanted, just not the players.

Beware of what you wish for. 😔

Posted
9 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Swapping Maccelli for Doan would have made this slightly more palatable. 
 

Maccelli had less points then Doan last year….and is older and smaller 

Doan is exactly what we don’t have 

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Posted (edited)

Just throwing this out there but maybe they expect Kulich to take Peterka’s minutes and we all know he’s got a rocket of a shot as well, I’m taking a wait and see approach on this deal. 

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4 minutes ago, ponokasabre said:

Maccelli had less points then Doan last year….and is older and smaller 

Doan is exactly what we don’t have 

“A revamped 4th line is exactly what we don’t have”

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I guess we will see if Peterka is actually a star, or whether his numbers this year were a creation of a shooting heater combined with playing with Thompson.

For some reason people only seem to make that argument with Byram and Dahlin, but the analytics are there.

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4 minutes ago, dudacek said:

I guess we will see if Peterka is actually a star, or whether his numbers this year were a creation of a shooting heater combined with playing with Thompson.

For some reason people only seem to make that argument with Byram and Dahlin, but the analytics are there.

Thank you for a good point - in response to whoever called my post a burner account… peterkas metrics away from Thompson are actually worse than Byram away from Dahlin. But I’m to one who’s an idiot…there is a real chance that JJ is not as good as his stat numbers looked last year if you look at the underlying statistics.

of course I would love to have gotten the fourth pick as well, but if other teams know what those metric say then there’s no way we are getting the two pieces we got plus a top five draft pick.

 

also McLeod does not need to play in the top 6 now ( to whoever said that) - they need to do their job and get another top six player and everything will be quite good. We actually have an extra $5 million to spend towards that cause and probably will have about $10 million of space after our rfas ( depending on what we get back for Byram) 

We should all be super pissed if they do not spend this money, but they haven’t not spent it yet 

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I do not think anyone should be upset about this. We got a top 4 defenseman, some cap space and an energy 4th liner.

The Sabres have a plethora of younger talent, can’t keep them all. Address n ed move along. As far as I’m concerned, Adams did his job.

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22 minutes ago, ponokasabre said:

Maccelli had less points then Doan last year….and is older and smaller 

Doan is exactly what we don’t have 

Exactly these are 2 players going in different directions and we got the tougher one that is trending up 

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Posted (edited)

Kinda skipped past the JJ contract, but 5x $7.7M for only 1 UFA year and UFA status at 28 sounds like a big win for a player coming off an ELC.

His agent seems like a piece of work, but he got the player exactly what he wanted.

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51 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Jeff Skinner is a former 40 goal and routine 30 goal scorer. If having him on your team makes you unable to win, the problem is with your team, as it has been at each one of his stops. If Peterka's future is Skinner, every member of the FO should be escorted from the building for this trade.

Jeff skinner is a defensive black hole and that was why Buffalo nor any one else has won with him. Thats why he was mostly stapled to the oilers bench in the playoffs 

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30 minutes ago, dudacek said:

I guess we will see if Peterka is actually a star, or whether his numbers this year were a creation of a shooting heater combined with playing with Thompson.

For some reason people only seem to make that argument with Byram and Dahlin, but the analytics are there.

Honestly, it’s yours

take it 

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