Jason Robertson rumored to be on the trade block

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Why would Edmonton trade us their middle 6 center when they're a serious franchise that's competing for a cup? 

Are you not aware that Edmonton was in the SC finals without him? They considered him replaceable. 

I like McCleod a lot. He was a good addition. But he's not at the level or of importance to the team he left than is Robertson for Dallas. 

[JohnC]

5 hours ago, FrenchConnection44 said:

I'd rather trade JJP and Power (and a prospect) in a Robertson deal. 

Is that not feasible? 

Absolutely not! 

[Flashsabre]

Why does everyone want to throw Power away like he is a piece of garbage?

[Palm Trees And Taxes]

9 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Why does everyone want to throw Power away like he is a piece of garbage?

I would agree with this. Power is far from a finished product. My biggest issue was paying Power 8 years. Would have preferred a bridge deal. Would have provided us with 2M or more of cap space the next few years, and also made Power a more attractive trade piece of we did decide to go that route.

[LGR4GM]

28 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Are you not aware that Edmonton was in the SC finals without him? They considered him replaceable. 

I like McCleod a lot. He was a good addition. But he's not at the level or of importance to the team he left than is Robertson for Dallas. 

Are you not aware that Dallas was not in the Stanley Cup finals with Robertson? Maybe Dallas considers him replaceable. 

You're totally missing the point. You argued no good franchise would trade a useful player even though that's exactly what Edmonton did. It's not a comparison of who's a better player McLeod or Robertson, it's a discussion of why teams trade players.

[LGR4GM]

15 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Why does everyone want to throw Power away like he is a piece of garbage?

Everyone... meaning like 2 posters ever?

[LGR4GM]

2 hours ago, JohnC said:

Why would Dallas trade Jason Robertson? That would make no sense for them. Dallas is a serious SC contending team. They have a top tier goalie who is capable of keeping their thick team in cup contention. This is a period of time where you go for it, not slide back because of cap stresses. 
 

Dallas is a serious franchise with championship aspirations. They are a first rate operation that is not going to act like a third rate penny pinching franchise like the mocked Sabres. Dallas is not going to strip its team of a key player because of the cap pressure. The Stars will make some tough decisions and do what they have to do to work within the cap. Especially while this group is capable of vying for the SC, they are not going to shed any of their essential players and set themselves back while they are on the doorstep is a championship. Their franchise is an adult franchise while the Sabre franchise sits at the table set aside for the children. That’s the reality. 

First the constant Sabres bashing in your posts is as I've already noted, ***** annoying. It's in every thing you post regardless of the topic. 

Second, why would Dallas trade Robertson? Because they don't think they can sign him next year and believe they can trade him and still get better. Will they? Idk, sounds like probably not but they might think they can use that 7.75 million this year and 10 million every year after for players that will help them win playoff games. Colorado traded Rantanen, guess they are at the children's table. Calgary traded Tkachuk, children's table. 

Teams trade for players sometimes. 

[JohnC]

Just now, LGR4GM said:

Are you not aware that Dallas was not in the Stanley Cup finals with Robertson? Maybe Dallas considers him replaceable. 

Dallas was a genuine SC contender and very likely will be in the mix again next year.

Is Robertson replaceable? I'm sure Dallas would rather have him than not. We'll see how Dallas handles the impending cap challenges. As it has been said before by a number of people, good organizations find a way to work within the cap and keep the core together when the window of opportunity is still open. I think they will but maybe they won't. Dallas is a serious franchise that wants to seriously compete. If they can find a way to keep him they will. If they can't do it, they will get a good return for him. 

[JohnC]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

First the constant Sabres bashing in your posts is as I've already noted, ***** annoying. It's in every thing you post regardless of the topic. 

Second, why would Dallas trade Robertson? Because they don't think they can sign him next year and believe they can trade him and still get better. Will they? Idk, sounds like probably not but they might think they can use that 7.75 million this year and 10 million every year after for players that will help them win playoff games. Colorado traded Rantanen, guess they are at the children's table. Calgary traded Tkachuk, children's table. 

Teams trade for players sometimes. 

If you don't like what I'm posting about the inept GM and the ragged owner, then don't freaking respond. I don't respond to all your pompous and obnoxious posts. So exercise some self-discipline and direct your boorish attitude to someone else. Who the freak appointed you guardian of the house. There is a simple solution: ignore and address someone else. Your lack of self-awareness how insufferable you can be (not all times) is off the charts. 

8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

 

Teams trade for players sometimes. 

Your brilliance in full display. 

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, JohnC said:

If you don't like what I'm posting about the inept GM and the ragged owner, then don't freaking respond. I don't respond to all your pompous and obnoxious posts. So exercise some self-discipline and direct your boorish attitude to someone else. Who the freak appointed you guardian of the house. There is a simple solution: ignore and address someone else. Your lack of self-awareness how insufferable you can be (not all times) is off the charts. 

And blocked 🚫 

Continue your whining, boring, incessant trash talk of the franchise at your leisure. 

Also @JohnC kiss my ass.

[JohnC]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

And blocked 🚫 

Continue your whining, boring, incessant trash talk of the franchise at your leisure. 

Also @JohnC kiss my ass.

Your level of class is on full display. Act like an adult and grow up. 

[LGR4GM]

6 minutes ago, JohnC said:

If you don't like what I'm posting about the inept GM and the ragged owner, then don't freaking respond. I don't respond to all your pompous and obnoxious posts. So exercise some self-discipline and direct your boorish attitude to someone else. Who the freak appointed you guardian of the house. There is a simple solution: ignore and address someone else. Your lack of self-awareness how insufferable you can be (not all times) is off the charts. 

Your brilliance in full display. 

 

Just now, JohnC said:

Your level of class is on full display. Act like an adult and grow up. 

"Act like an adult"

[LGR4GM]

I'm gonna get warned or banned. I deserve it, but God did it feel good after all the condescending nonsense from you John. It. Felt. Good. See y'all in 48hrs unless something happens. I think I need to be an adult, wink wink Johnny, and unplug for a bit.

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I'm gonna get warned or banned. I deserve it, but God did it feel good after all the condescending nonsense from you John. It. Felt. Good. See y'all in 48hrs unless something happens. I think I need to be an adult, wink wink Johnny, and unplug for a bit.

If responding the way you did makes you feel good, then you have issues to address. You may not be aware of it due to your lack of self-awareness but you calling someone condescending is beyond being absurd. You seem frazzled. Go take a break and refresh. 

[Mr. MVP]

Come on gents.  This is crunch time.  I need both of your input during this week. Let’s stay cool. 

[SwampD]

14 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

For what it's worth, I've seen a few reports that Dallas is exploring re-signing Robertson. 

Thank you.

[inkman]

Just keeping adding to the deal until they can’t say no.  Byram, Quinn, any of the prospects or picks.  Just do it.  

[thewookie1]

4 minutes ago, inkman said:

Just keeping adding to the deal until they can’t say no.  Byram, Quinn, any of the prospects or picks.  Just do it.  

Minus our 1st, however I’d also be less inclined if he’s looking for 12+ mil a year. Re-signing Tuch would still be the priority 

[ponokasabre]

54 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

Minus our 1st, however I’d also be less inclined if he’s looking for 12+ mil a year. Re-signing Tuch would still be the priority 

If you are getting Robertson you give that first and you don't even think about it, you are getting a 100 point player in his prime! 

 

The fans that you would win back and the good favor with players would be immeasurable! With Robertson in this line up there is no way its not a playoff team/contender. And they would want im sure Quinn and then a butt load of futures. I doubt they would want Byram

[Mr. MVP]

1 hour ago, thewookie1 said:

Minus our 1st, however I’d also be less inclined if he’s looking for 12+ mil a year. Re-signing Tuch would still be the priority 

Would they be able to get away with a protected 1st? 

[Mr. MVP]

And with their roster I don’t think they have any need for Byram.  
And unfortunately Kevyn doesn’t know how to do something like a 3 team trade to make it work. 

[irregularly irregular]

I think it would take the 2026 first (maybe top 3 protected) + Quinn + Helenius in order to get Robbie. They would ask for Benson and/or Kulich instead of Quinn.

 

[inkman]

16 minutes ago, irregularly irregular said:

I think it would take the 2026 first (maybe top 3 protected) + Quinn + Helenius in order to get Robbie. They would ask for Benson and/or Kulich instead of Quinn.

 

Fine.  Do it. 

[Weave]

44 minutes ago, ponokasabre said:

If you are getting Robertson you give that first and you don't even think about it, you are getting a 100 point player in his prime! 

 

The fans that you would win back and the good favor with players would be immeasurable! With Robertson in this line up there is no way its not a playoff team/contender. And they would want im sure Quinn and then a butt load of futures. I doubt they would want Byram

I agree.  I realize there is a star a couple yrs out likely at the top of the draft, but Robertson is a star now, and even if you finish last overall, the odds of getting that star is, what, 25%? Robertson is pretty much what the rest of the first round will have as a target for performance.

This team needs the fully prime elite talent, not a new timeline for KA to follow.

[irregularly irregular]

1 hour ago, Weave said:

I agree.  I realize there is a star a couple yrs out likely at the top of the draft, but Robertson is a star now, and even if you finish last overall, the odds of getting that star is, what, 25%? Robertson is pretty much what the rest of the first round will have as a target for performance.

This team needs the fully prime elite talent, not a new timeline for KA to follow.

The last thing this team needs is another timeline, especially one that KA is trying to manage. 

Of the available options (that we know about), Robbie is the best answer. KA has exactly what Dallas wants, but it's the futures that he holds so dearly. 

If the end result were to be another rebuild,  I fear that the Buffalo Sabres would no longer exist. The swirl would become the flush and the franchise would end up somewhere else.