Jason Robertson rumored to be on the trade block

[inkman]

Peterka, Byram for Robertson, Bishel 

E5

 

[LGR4GM]

[LGR4GM]

 

 

[That Aud Smell]

i don't watch enough hockey to be familiar with this guy.

pretty effing good, eh?

nfw the sabres get him.

[LGR4GM]

15 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

i don't watch enough hockey to be familiar with this guy.

pretty effing good, eh?

nfw the sabres get him.

I'd trade Peterka and #9 and Östlund for him tomorrow without a 2nd thought. I'd throw in Byram too if needed. 

Edited Monday at 09:05 PM by LGR4GM
I can't spell

[PerreaultForever]

7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I'd trade Peterka and #9 and Östlund for him tomorrow without a 2nd thought. I'd throw in Byram too if needed. 

Way too much. 

Regarding Byrum, San Jose are apparently desperate for a top pairing D man and are trying to entice the islanders to swap picks. I'd dangle Byram in front of them as a possible plan B for them. For what idk. Not that familiar with who or what they have.

[LGR4GM]

28 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Way too much. 

Regarding Byrum, San Jose are apparently desperate for a top pairing D man and are trying to entice the islanders to swap picks. I'd dangle Byram in front of them as a possible plan B for them. For what idk. Not that familiar with who or what they have.

I don't think Peterka,  9, and Östlund is too much. Adding Byrum is. 

Edited Monday at 09:41 PM by LGR4GM

[ponokasabre]

5 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Way too much. 

Regarding Byrum, San Jose are apparently desperate for a top pairing D man and are trying to entice the islanders to swap picks. I'd dangle Byram in front of them as a possible plan B for them. For what idk. Not that familiar with who or what they have.

Mario Ferraro is the guy we have to target as the main piece coming back, San Jose should be very interested in Byram, they no defensman signed long term.

 

Ferraro is a left handed defenseman but is sounds defensively and hits like crazy, he would be perfect beside Dahlin. Byram for Ferraro is likely an overpay for us so maybe there is something coming back, maybe one of San Jose's late firsts and then we can use it or ours in a trade

[ponokasabre]

There was so much smoke about Buffalo getting Robinson at one point, I have to assume we swing around and try again.

 

I would give up an absolute ton to get him. This would be a huge pick up. The only thing is Dallas wants to cut salary so any deal would likely be for less then Robinsons salary coming back, or us taking a bad contract like Dumba back 

[thewookie1]

Biggest issue with Robertson is he’s 1 year to UFA and he’s going to be looking for Dahlin money which we don’t exactly have

[inkman]

13 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

Biggest issue with Robertson is he’s 1 year to UFA and he’s going to be looking for Dahlin money which we don’t exactly have

I think trading Peterka and Byram should alleviate that 

[Mr. Allen]

Ottenger’s unhappiness with the coach isn’t likely going to lead to him ever being traded right?  
Cause we’ll take that contract on if they need to shed salary…. 😉 

[Brawndo]

34 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

Biggest issue with Robertson is he’s 1 year to UFA and he’s going to be looking for Dahlin money which we don’t exactly have

He’s a RFA next summer-the cap is projected to increase to 104 in 2026-27 and 113.5 in 2027-28.

4 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said:

Ottenger’s unhappiness with the coach isn’t likely going to lead to him ever being traded right?  
Cause we’ll take that contract on if they need to shed salary…. 😉 

Most likely DeBoer is gone first 

[DarthEbriate]

1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

Most likely DeBoer is gone first 

This is the way.

 

I don't trade for Robertson unless I can get an extension in place before consummation. That's too like Skinner to go awry for the long-term.

But a slightly cheaper Peterka LW for a more expensive Robertson LW would be a good starting point for both GMs to begin to construct something.

Robertson-Norris-TNT is a legit 1st line, with Norris being the weakest link. But a 2C can easily float with two big 40-goal scorers.

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

I don't think Peterka,  9, and Östlund is too much. Adding Byrum is. 

Yes I said that because of the "throw Byram in". I think Peterka, 9 and Östlund is rich and marginally too much but I'd still do it. I have no interest in them "winning trades". I want them to add roster players. It's the 9th overall that gives me pause. I'd certainly do Peterka, Östlund and a 2nd (throw in Rosen if you want as I think he's a bust anyway). Or 2 seconds. If that 9th pick becomes Martin or Bear it feels less appealing. 

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

 

 

Does Robertson have a no trade clause? 

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, PerreaultForever said:

Yes I said that because of the "throw Byram in". I think Peterka, 9 and Östlund is rich and marginally too much but I'd still do it. I have no interest in them "winning trades". I want them to add roster players. It's the 9th overall that gives me pause. I'd certainly do Peterka, Östlund and a 2nd (throw in Rosen if you want as I think he's a bust anyway). Or 2 seconds. If that 9th pick becomes Martin or Bear it feels less appealing. 

I'm not interested in waiting 5yrs for Bear or Martin when I can have Robertson. 

Robertson for Peterka, Martin, and Östlund wouldn't even give me pause. 

1 minute ago, JohnC said:

Does Robertson have a no trade clause? 

None I can see. 

https://puckpedia.com/team/dallas-stars

 

[DarthEbriate]

1 minute ago, JohnC said:

Does Robertson have a no trade clause? 

No, RFA. Projected 8x$10.6M on capwages.

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, ponokasabre said:

Mario Ferraro is the guy we have to target as the main piece coming back, San Jose should be very interested in Byram, they no defensman signed long term.

 

Ferraro is a left handed defenseman but is sounds defensively and hits like crazy, he would be perfect beside Dahlin. Byram for Ferraro is likely an overpay for us so maybe there is something coming back, maybe one of San Jose's late firsts and then we can use it or ours in a trade

I doubt they'd want to send a D prospect back given their D situation. I'd take picks back from them and then use that draft capital in further deals like Robertson or Dobson or whoever. Adams has to stop the foolishness of looking for "hockey trades". You trade your player for picks to one team and then you swap picks for a player to another team. Ta-da "hockey trade" net result. 

[DarthEbriate]

4 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

I don't trade for Robertson unless I can get an extension in place before consummation. That's too like Skinner to go awry for the long-term.

But a slightly cheaper Peterka LW for a more expensive Robertson LW would be a good starting point for both GMs to begin to construct something.

Robertson-Norris-TNT is a legit 1st line, with Norris being the weakest link. But a 2C can easily float with two big 40-goal scorers.

The issue being Norris is also a shooter. At that point, you need a true distributing center to be between them. But it would work. But Robertson-TNT could make a lot of centers look really good.

[PerreaultForever]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

I'm not interested in waiting 5yrs for Bear or Martin when I can have Robertson. 

Robertson for Peterka, Martin, and Östlund wouldn't even give me pause. 

None I can see. 

https://puckpedia.com/team/dallas-stars

 

That's fair. I'd say those guys are wait 3 years not 5 but I get your point. As I said, I'd make the deal anyway. I'd consider it a winning trade for Dallas but it wouldn't matter as our roster would be better now.

[DarthEbriate]

7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I'm not interested in waiting 5yrs for Bear or Martin when I can have Robertson. 

Robertson for Peterka, Martin, and Östlund wouldn't even give me pause. 

Yup. That does it for me and that's a solid pull of Dallas' cap and futures. I'd be reluctant to move Helenius or Wahlberg because the Sabres need something on the Rochester callup list after Rosén moves on or is already up for an injury.

[LGR4GM]

11 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

I doubt they'd want to send a D prospect back given their D situation. I'd take picks back from them and then use that draft capital in further deals like Robertson or Dobson or whoever. Adams has to stop the foolishness of looking for "hockey trades". You trade your player for picks to one team and then you swap picks for a player to another team. Ta-da "hockey trade" net result. 

Dallas has no 1st until 2027 and no 2nd until 2026.

[oddoublee]

25 year old w 40 goal ability and rfa restriction after next season....and they want to trade him, why? I'm not buying. 

Could they be floating to see what his perceived value is before making a contract commitment? 

Guys who shoot the puck like this should never hit the market......id give up a first and a couple more A pieces to get him. 

[PerreaultForever]

12 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Dallas has no 1st until 2027 and no 2nd until 2026.

Right, so you can trade Byram for picks to San Jose or somebody else and then trade those picks and/or your own to Dallas for Robertson. Along with whatever else makes it work but that's the crux of how you get deals done. Everybody happy. 

If Adams tries to get a roster player one for one with Byram it'll be a lot harder to do. Same with Peterka. 

18 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

 

Yup. That does it for me and that's a solid pull of Dallas' cap and futures. I'd be reluctant to move Helenius or Wahlberg because the Sabres need something on the Rochester callup list after Rosén moves on or is already up for an injury.

Would you do Helenius and Wahlberg for Rossi? I would.