Sabres announce Jarmo Kekalainen Hired as Senior Advisor

[JohnC]

4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

The bigger question: How long before we are calling for Kekäläinen's head?

 

As @Thorny points out the overwhelming response is positive. You are the one who is being negative, or more accurately anticipating it. How long will the good vibes last? If the season spirals downward again, as it usually does, the negativity will come back in full force. And righteously so. 

[PromoTheRobot]

8 minutes ago, JohnC said:

As @Thorny points out the overwhelming response is positive. You are the one who is being negative, or more accurately anticipating it. How long will the good vibes last? If the season spirals downward again, as it usually does, the negativity will come back in full force. And righteously so. 

Lol, exactly.

[LGR4GM]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

Lol, exactly.

Guess if the team sucks for the 15th straight year we should just cram some rainbows and sunshine up our assess, then kiss the ground beneath Terry's feet for allowing us peasants to even have a hockey team. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Just saw the news.  This is a perfectly good choice.  Now will Adams listen? I doubt it, but you never know.  

I’d say the odds of JJP being traded just dropped.  

[Thorny]

8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Lol, exactly.

[JohnC]

10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Lol, exactly.

When a batter comes up to bat and strikes out 14 consecutive times what do you think the fans in the stadium are expecting? If you believe that it will be a game winning Home Run, you are a longshot gambler. I'm not a long shot gambler. 

[JohnC]

30 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Just saw the news.  This is a perfectly good choice.  Now will Adams listen? I doubt it, but you never know.  

I’d say the odds of JJP being traded just dropped.  

Why do you say that? I'm not arguing for or against it. Just don't understand your reasoning why the trade possibility became less likely. 

[PromoTheRobot]

32 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Guess if the team sucks for the 15th straight year we should just cram some rainbows and sunshine up our assess, then kiss the ground beneath Terry's feet for allowing us peasants to even have a hockey team. 

No, but will we wait until the end of next season to turn negative? Everyone wants to be the first to say "I told you so." People are already hedging their bets saying this move changes nothing.

[PromoTheRobot]

24 minutes ago, JohnC said:

When a batter comes up to bat and strikes out 14 consecutive times what do you think the fans in the stadium are expecting? If you believe that it will be a game winning Home Run, you are a longshot gambler. I'm not a long shot gambler. 

Do you believe the last 14 seasons failed for the exact same reason?

[shrader]

2 hours ago, Thorny said:

Agree with one minor adjustment edited in 

Are you just messing with me by not actually changing anything?🤔

[LGR4GM]

14 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

No, but will we wait until the end of next season to turn negative? Everyone wants to be the first to say "I told you so." People are already hedging their bets saying this move changes nothing.

The move changes nothing until something happens. That's just logic. 

[JohnC]

10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Do you believe the last 14 seasons failed for the exact same reason?

No, I do not believe the annual failures were due to the same reasons. The organization was innovative each year on how it failed. This is an example of creativity going bad. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

18 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Why do you say that? I'm not arguing for or against it. Just don't understand your reasoning why the trade possibility became less likely. 

I don’t see Jarmo believes in trading away his best young players.

[PromoTheRobot]

8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The move changes nothing until something happens. That's just logic. 

It's also hedging.

7 minutes ago, JohnC said:

No, I do not believe the annual failures were due to the same reasons. The organization was innovative each year on how it failed. This is an example of creativity going bad. 

To fix a problem you have to understand the problem.

[LGR4GM]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

It's also hedging.

To fix a problem you have to understand the problem.

God this is annoying. You're hedging too by taking this line btw fyi 

"See I said every one would get negative" that's hedging. Who the ***** cares if you're right or in right? Who cares? 

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

It's also hedging.

To fix a problem you have to understand the problem.

Theirs about 20 threads that delve into the nuanced problems of the Buffalo Sabres, enjoy the read. 

[Slack_in_MA]

29 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

No, but will we wait until the end of next season to turn negative? Everyone wants to be the first to say "I told you so." People are already hedging their bets saying this move changes nothing.

Probably because as of right now, it hasn’t.

[JohnC]

15 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

I don’t see Jarmo believes in trading away his best young players.

If that’s the case I salute him and like him even more.

Based on his record he is not afraid of making deals. I think you are over reading the situation based on your worries about the franchise history. 

Edited yesterday at 12:34 AM by JohnC

[Thorny]

22 minutes ago, shrader said:

Are you just messing with me by not actually changing anything?🤔

I added in THE credit 

[Two or less]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Just saw the news.  This is a perfectly good choice.  Now will Adams listen? I doubt it, but you never know.  

 

 

Hard not to like the hire. I am not worried if Adams will listen or not, they wouldn't have hired him if he wasn't willing to listen. My question is what is his role? Will be he involved daily? Will he be included on every trade discussion? At every scouting meeting? Will he be attending games? Sabres once had Craig Patrick in a similar role, who was very visible in the early parts in the Pegula suite and even on the road, made several radio hits and then just disappeared. I'm not even sure if we know exactly when he left the Sabres org or what impact (if any) he even had? 

7 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

I don’t see Jarmo believes in trading away his best young players.

He's not the GM. He can have an opinion to keep him but he ain't steering the ship. Just like i assume Karmanos and Ventura will have a say.

2 minutes ago, JohnC said:

If that’s the case I salute him and like him even more.

Based on his record he is not afraid of making deals. I think you are over reading the situation based on your worries about the franchise history. 

I mean it's hard to say what he will do or suggest. It's almost June 1, and most of the big moves like Peterka and Byram will be finalized within 3-4 weeks. He probably doesn't have much to say one way or another tbh.

[Huckleberry]

Might be just be my view, lets not take it into any sports related stuff.

But your company is doing not so well, not close to bankrupt (14 yr no- playoff phantom zone)  but just some bad years.
No real company is run like our beloved team...

But new manager comes in, who everyone knows is capable of being a gm,
your current manager (gm) who probably already got new jobs lined up is on the clock

That is how I see this, if end november we still suck , the change is easy.

Also if you guys think this doesn't bother Terry pegula, I think it does.

[gomper]

I think some of you are missing the point. Finally, an adult in the room with a successful past, other than Lindy. Will it work? That's anyone's guess but having an experienced voice in the organization is a positive thing. We'll see. 

[Thorny]

The more I think about this, the more it feels like Jarmo is essentially the shadow GM. Adams mannerisms didn’t line up with a guy still in charge, really. This guy has the experience…I think he’s the guy 

the non formalization at this time is merely pegula antics to save face 

Edited yesterday at 12:52 AM by Thorny

[Huckleberry]

Just now, Thorny said:

The more I think about this, the more it feels like Jarmo is essentially the shadow GM. Adams mannerisms didn’t line up with a guy still on charge, really. This guy has the experience…I think he’s the guy 

Like I said, Kevyn is on the clock.

[Two or less]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

Like I said, Kevyn is on the clock.

Unless Jarmo bails like Patty did

[LGR4GM]

Idk why any of us have to fight about this at all. We can't know how it changes things. Wait and see is all we can do.