Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 If Ted Nolan was so unhappy about the PLF situation, if his sense of honor so insulted, he should have had the integrity to walk away instead of compromising his "principles" and accepting a lucrative coaching offer with a team he KNEW wasn't loaded with talent. Teddy was wrong to throw his team under the bus, no matter how much we agree with it. And it were MY team, I'd have no problem telling him that. I think I've overrated his ability as a coach. If his strength is motivation, then he has failed miserably. Which is a shame because he wouldn't know an X from an O on the whiteboard. Teddy can feel free to leave any time he wants and that would be OK by this fan. GO SABRES!!! I'm prepared to start a website to compete with the Blue and Gold Club. Instead of paying $100 a year to be on a season ticket waiting list.....I am willing to offer FREE BUFFALO SABRES STANLEY CUP TICKETS to every home game for $100 a year per seat if you sign up for a 5 year option and pay up front. It will be properly insured through a AAA underwriter, which should cost me about 1.3% I will have to limit it to 8,000 seats, since that is the average amount of Toronto fans in the building that were sold tickets by Sabres season ticket holders. I know my marks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I dunno. Why does Nolan feel he "can't" make those comments again? He's the head coach and players are telling him what he can and can't say? Just a curious way to put it. I got a feeling his bosses probably didn't like that comment. If so, how will they react to his remark about "learning last week, that he cannot say what he feels"? I doubt Nolan's around come March, one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I got a feeling his bosses probably didn't like that comment. If so, how will they react to his remark about "learning last week, that he cannot say what he feels"? I doubt Nolan's around come March, one way or the other. My prediction was he would be gone by Thanksgiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Obama's credit card declined in NYC restaurant. Can you imagine the embarrassment to the restaurant? I'm surprised he even carries one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Obama's credit card declined in NYC restaurant. Can you imagine the embarrassment to the restaurant? I'm surprised he even carries one. The restaurant doesn't decide to decline it so why should they be embarrassed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Good Morning Ted Nolan, so, how does it feel to be coaching a team of players that can't score a goal to save your job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Good Morning Ted Nolan, so, how does it feel to be coaching a team of players that can't score a goal to save your job? Probably worse than just having to watch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Good Morning Ted Nolan, so, how does it feel to be coaching a team of players that can't score a goal to save your job? Great turn of phrase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 My prediction was he would be gone by Thanksgiving. I still think Murray will wait until the coach matters before making a decision. Then again, Nolan could walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Probably worse than just having to watch them. At least Nolan gets paid for having to watch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 If Murray wants to bring in "his guy," can anyone argue this mess of a season is a good time to do it? If the answer is no, then nolan should stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 2014 Team Latvia v. 2014 Sabres. Both teams get Girgensons. Who wins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 2014 Team Latvia v. 2014 Sabres. Both teams get Girgensons. Who wins? Hard work wins when talent doesn't work hard. Also, "feed a cold and starve a fever," and "put hair around it." I've got more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 If Murray wants to bring in "his guy," can anyone argue this mess of a season is a good time to do it? If the answer is no, then nolan should stay I want to see play improve. If there is no prospect of that, make a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I want to see play improve. If there is no prospect of that, make a change. Why demoralize another coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 To pull a Ted Black, if this season was an NFL season, there would be 5 minutes left in the first quarter of the second game. You don't fire your football coach at that point. You might wait until halftime though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Why demoralize another coach? Some coaches are great teachers, some coaches are great strategists, some coaches are great improvisers, some coaches create disciplined systems, some coaches are great motivators. Motivation gets us 2 points and 8 goals in 6 games. I'm open to someone good at the other 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Some coaches are great teachers, some coaches are great strategists, some coaches are great improvisers, some coaches create disciplined systems, some coaches are great motivators. Motivation gets us 2 points and 8 goals in 6 games. I'm open to someone good at the other 4. Maybe giving Ted a little short shrift? Also, it's funny to see you be so reactionary when you never seemed to give a second thought to even the notion of firing Lindy — after 16 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Maybe giving Ted a little short shrift? Also, it's funny to see you be so reactionary when you never seemed to give a second thought to even the notion of firing Lindy — after 16 years. I like to think that I would have called for Lindys ouster if he started a year without a coherent system in all three zones. I expected much more from Nolan, or at least from his staff. I'm not calling for Nolan's removal yet, but I'm think the game has passed him by. I've never once thought that about Ruff even when I thought it was his time to go. So, yes, I think the game has passed Nolan by. And more than funny, I'm simply sad about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Maybe giving Ted a little short shrift? Also, it's funny to see you be so reactionary when you never seemed to give a second thought to even the notion of firing Lindy — after 16 years. I like to think that I would have called for Lindys ouster if he started a year without a coherent system in all three zones. I expected much more from Nolan, or at least from his staff. I'm not calling for Nolan's removal yet, but I'm think the game has passed him by. I've never once thought that about Ruff even when I thought it was his time to go. So, yes, I think the game has passed Nolan by. And more than funny, I'm simply sad about it. I think what X said previously that has resonated most with me since the season began is, paraphrasing: Nolan's system is everybody go north for period's 1 and 3 and everybody go south in period 2. What I took that to mean and what I take it to mean is that doesn't appear to be any system whatsoever with these guys and this coach. How can that be? But through six games, it sure seems that way. Edited October 19, 2014 by wjag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 At least Nolan gets paid for having to watch them. True, but for how long? :flirt: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Some coaches are great teachers, some coaches are great strategists, some coaches are great improvisers, some coaches create disciplined systems, some coaches are great motivators. Motivation gets us 2 points and 8 goals in 6 games. I'm open to someone good at the other 4. I get your point; I just don't know if I want to see a good coach suffer and get frustrated. I don't really care about Nolan one way or the other right now. It's becoming clear to me that he's not going to be the right coach when the team has real talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicknfla Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) With this most likely being his last coaching gig I doubt he quits. Probably needs the money and most likely the only reason he decided to stay. What I can see him doing is making it impossible for GMTM NOT to fire him. Then he gets paid and he can go home and collect a check for a few years. As for Lindy. 30 teams have a job opening. The two candidates are him and Nolan. How many hire Nolan? Yes his time here had come but to compare them as coaches is apples to oranges. Edited October 19, 2014 by sicknfla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 With this most likely being his last coaching gig I doubt he quits. Probably needs the money and most likely the only reason he decided to stay. What I can see him doing is making it impossible for GMTM NOT to fire him. Then he gets paid and he can go home and collect a check for a few years. As for Lindy. 30 teams have a job opening. The two candidates are him and Nolan. How many hire Nolan? Yes his time here had come but to compare them as coaches is apples to oranges. Agreed on coaching styles, disagree on outcome. Teddy did get the most out of that squad back in the 90's, of course, it helped immensely having Dom back stopping your team. As for Lindy, it helped having Dom, then didn't when he left, it helped having Drury/Briere then didn't when they left. I would surmise that skill or skill/leadership in those cases are what made the difference, not coaching styles. I believe they both had the same out come, no Stanley Cups. And what's with the apples and oranges analogies I'm seeing in many threads these days? They are both fruit. If anything, we should be saying "it's like comparing apples and Reese's peanut butter cups" They are both delicious, but only one is recommended by physicians :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnkirishone Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Agreed on coaching styles, disagree on outcome. Teddy did get the most out of that squad back in the 90's, of course, it helped immensely having Dom back stopping your team. As for Lindy, it helped having Dom, then didn't when he left, it helped having Drury/Briere then didn't when they left. I would surmise that skill or skill/leadership in those cases are what made the difference, not coaching styles. I believe they both had the same out come, no Stanley Cups. And what's with the apples and oranges analogies I'm seeing in many threads these days? They are both fruit. If anything, we should be saying "it's like comparing apples and Reese's peanut butter cups" They are both delicious, but only one is recommended by physicians :P take dom off the nolan teams and you have last place teams, no coach of the year award, and no longing to right the wrong of nolanpasts. I said last season if nolan wants to be succesful he better bring in some good assistants that can coach and put some systems in place... Edited October 19, 2014 by drnkirishone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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