FearTheReaper Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 The signing of Shaone Morrison not only has made me very excited about our D, it has opened up alot of intrigue in my thoughts. Myers all but stole the right of being the top Dman on the roster. Rivet needs to be on the 3rd pair, in my view. His game has slowed significantly over the past few seasons. And his experience will help the younger 6th dman he will be paired with. Morrison has alot of experience playing alongside Mike Green in Washington. So he is used to being with an offensive partner. He is a lefty as well. Soooo... With Myers being a righty, and fitting into the Mike Green mold. I think it would make all the sense in the world to put these two together. That would be amazing. I also think that Montador and Leopold compliment each other well too. And Steve is a righty, Jordan, a lefty. That would leave us with Rivet and probably Butler/ Sekera, but hopefully Marc-Andre Gragnani works Shakira down to the minors for good during camp. My pairs would look like this. Morrison - Myers Leopold - Montador Gragnani/Butler - Rivet Thoughts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpgr909 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Morrison - Myers Leopold - Montador Gragnani/Butler - Rivet Thoughts??? I'm not as excited as you about the overall state of the D, and while I agree that Rivet is 3rd pairing material as it stands, I'm still willing to give him about a month to see what he can do now that he's healed up. If we still get the same level of play, then keep him there (or sit him down if he deserves it, I have no problem with that). But that said, I like your match-ups and the reasons you provided. Montador is going to need to keep up a good level of play and do away with some of the gaffes he makes now and again (which was a big problem with Lydman's game, IMO). I think the question is going to be the whole Weber/Sekera/Butler/Gragnani drama. I'm really hoping someone steps up and grabs hold of the 6th slot (or higher if they earn it). If Weber has an impressive camp, play him. If he fails, sit him, as the 7th D or back in Portland. Same goes for all the D-men. We have enough vying for a big league spot that all the D-men should be pressured into earning their place. Put up or shut up. That would be a nice, refreshing theme for the whole team this September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Sekera's on a one way deal, so the only way he's not playing in Buffalo is if he's traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresneedaCup Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 those pairings sound good to me. but i dont like sekera. i think hes a bum and has had way too many oppurtunities. i like butler though, and i dont understand why he is not the 6th defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpgr909 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Sekera's on a one way deal, so the only way he's not playing in Buffalo is if he's traded. Yeah, but the question would be as the 6th or 7th d-man. If he can't produce consistently, then we should sit him or hit the eject button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 before we all go medieval on Sekera's ass, let's ask ourselves which of our Dmen have actually been consistent since the lockout. we saw flashes of what Sekera could be at the Olympics last year. which leads to the next question, what is keeping him from playing that way in Buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 before we all go medieval on Sekera's ass, let's ask ourselves which of our Dmen have actually been consistent since the lockout. we saw flashes of what Sekera could be at the Olympics last year. which leads to the next question, what is keeping him from playing that way in Buffalo? Good question. I still remember him and Weber playing real well together a couple years ago. I'd like to see that pairing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpgr909 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 we saw flashes of what Sekera could be at the Olympics last year. which leads to the next question, what is keeping him from playing that way in Buffalo? Yes, good question. And what's more is, Lindy saw it too, which is why he gave him plenty of time after the break. And yet he reverted right back to his old self, which seems to be a common theme on this team. The obvious implication there is unintentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I'll predict that Sekera will stay ahead of Butler, Weber and Gragnani in the D rotation for most of this year and that he'll be pretty decent by the end of the year. Can anyone confirm whether any of those 4 can be sent down to Portland without having to clear waivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 My best guess: Leopold - Myers Morrison - Rivet Montador - Sekera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 This is what I've been using in NHL10: Morrison - Myers Leopold - Rivet Weber - Montador Of course, they don't have Rivet as slow as he is now. For reference, my forwards are: Vanek-Roy-Stafford Ennis-Connolly-Pommer Hecht-Niedermayer-Grier McCormick-Gaustad-Kaleta Myers got the game winner last night when he spun in the slot and snapped it top shelf in OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 This is what I've been using in NHL10: Morrison - Myers Leopold - Rivet Weber - Montador Of course, they don't have Rivet as slow as he is now. For reference, my forwards are: Vanek-Roy-Stafford Ennis-Connolly-Pommer Hecht-Niedermayer-Grier McCormick-Gaustad-Kaleta Myers got the game winner last night when he spun in the slot and snapped it top shelf in OT. I'd expect the forwards are what they'll run w/ barring a trade. Although it makes sense to have Morrison w/ Myers, I expect that the D-pairings will be Leopold - Myers Sekera - Rivet (once healthy) Morrison - Montador w/ Weber & Butler waiting in the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Our defence looks pedestrian at best. Especially if Rivet doesn't regain his form which could very well happen. It seems to me that Regier is relying on a whole lot of what ifs and best case senarios to run this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I'll predict that Sekera will stay ahead of Butler, Weber and Gragnani in the D rotation for most of this year and that he'll be pretty decent by the end of the year. Can anyone confirm whether any of those 4 can be sent down to Portland without having to clear waivers? There's only one d-man exempt from waivers on this team (excluding the obvious AHL guys). Some guy by the name of Myers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Our defence looks pedestrian at best. Especially if Rivet doesn't regain his form which could very well happen. It seems to me that Regier is relying on a whole lot of what ifs and best case senarios to run this team. Morrisson, leopold, and montador are all serviceable vets with top 4 capabilities. Not to mention a Norris trophy canidate. I'm fine with what they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 There's only one d-man exempt from waivers on this team (excluding the obvious AHL guys). Some guy by the name of Myers. So Butler will probably be the #7, leaving Gragnani and Weber... waived? Traded? It's hard to see DR just abandoning either of them by exposing them to waivers, so maybe a trade is indeed coming. If so, it will probably be a MacArthur- or Paille-type trade for a draft pick. However, maybe, just maybe, we'll see one of them plus Stafford for somebody's expensive forward that they have to unload for cap reasons? Like maybe Elias or Langenbrunner if NJ ever signs Kovy? That would be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 So Butler will probably be the #7, leaving Gragnani and Weber... waived? Traded? It's hard to see DR just abandoning either of them by exposing them to waivers, so maybe a trade is indeed coming. If so, it will probably be a MacArthur- or Paille-type trade for a draft pick. However, maybe, just maybe, we'll see one of them plus Stafford for somebody's expensive forward that they have to unload for cap reasons? Like maybe Elias or Langenbrunner if NJ ever signs Kovy? That would be sweet. Yeah, I fully expect at least one of those 6-10 defensemen to be shipped out for a pick or two. I think they'd almost rather give one of the younger guys (Brennan, Biega, etc...) a shot at a callup should injuries make that necessary. That seems to be how they do things around here most of the time, giving the young guy his cup of tea over the more seasoned veteran. The Jersey thing will be interesting if by some chance they ever get that worked out. TSN had a story up today that they tried to re-work the deal, but the NHL rejected the new proposal they put together. At this point, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Kovalchuk cuts his losses and heads home. If they do wind up with him and have to cut some space, the two guys you mentioned seem like the best options. Langenbrunner looks like the easiest guy to move, but he's the kind of guy Lou absolutely loves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 Not that it's anything credible or what not, but Rob Ray said on WGR few weeks ago he believes the plan is to pair up Myers with Rivet. I doubt Ray has any kind of inside sources so it might just be his opinion so take it for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolignosJock Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 If myers and morrisonn arent paired together then lindy is making a serious coaching mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 And we all know better than Lindy. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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