North Buffalo Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 You misused the terminology. Why d4rk sounded off like he did, who knows, but there's no sense in trying to spin it now. It is what it is. True enough, but this is not politics and I am not admitting to cheating on my wife in Argentina. Not sure why the Federal Case. Point of fact a sheet has to be filed for the Sabres to retain rights. Granted that is not the way it is commonly expressed, but it didn't warrant a third degree and that is only reason I am being so pig headed about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 True enough, but this is not politics and I am not admitting to cheating on my wife in Argentina. Not sure why the Federal Case. Point of fact a sheet has to be filed for the Sabres to retain rights. Granted that is not the way it is commonly expressed, but it didn't warrant a third degree and that is only reason I am being so pig headed about it. move on. No big deal. Lots of people get reemed for less. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 OMGSTFU. Maybe that's to harsh. OMGSTFU please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 you are slowly crossing over in to TSW territory. :( Lighten up. :thumbsup: SDS is spending too much time here. He's rubbing off too much on us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbossy Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I'm a bit surprised that there's no offer sheets for Stafford. An offer of over 1.1 million would make the Sabres match. You'd thing his agent would be talking to someone. Unless of course he likes it here, being a top four guy whereas somewhere else he would crack the top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresFan526 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I'm a bit surprised that there's no offer sheets for Stafford. An offer of over 1.1 million would make the Sabres match. You'd thing his agent would be talking to someone. Unless of course he likes it here, being a top four guy whereas somewhere else he would crack the top 6. Well, Grabovski just re-signed with Toronto for $2.9 million per year. Grabovski had 20 goals and 49 points, I believe, so that signing works well for the Sabres. You are probably looking at somewhere in the $2.5 million/year range for Stafford if he re-signs with Buffalo. An offer sheet would obviously inflate that value, but I'm think $2.5-$3.0 million/year is where Stafford will end up getting signed on a 3 year deal with Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbossy Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Grabovski re-signed by Toronto to 2.9 million per. This kid looks a lot like Stafford, just 30lbs lighter.. He went from $850,000 to 2.9mill. Was an RFA with Montreal before Toronto gave him a sheet last year. Darcy better watch it. Well, Grabovski just re-signed with Toronto for $2.9 million per year. Grabovski had 20 goals and 49 points, I believe, so that signing works well for the Sabres. You are probably looking at somewhere in the $2.5 million/year range for Stafford if he re-signs with Buffalo. An offer sheet would obviously inflate that value, but I'm think $2.5-$3.0 million/year is where Stafford will end up getting signed on a 3 year deal with Buffalo. My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well, Grabovski just re-signed with Toronto for $2.9 million per year. Grabovski had 20 goals and 49 points, I believe, so that signing works well for the Sabres. You are probably looking at somewhere in the $2.5 million/year range for Stafford if he re-signs with Buffalo. An offer sheet would obviously inflate that value, but I'm think $2.5-$3.0 million/year is where Stafford will end up getting signed on a 3 year deal with Buffalo. Grabovski's got a nice little wrister, but that's on the high side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 SDS is spending too much time here. He's rubbing off too much on us all. Should have known... I am YellowLinesandArmadillos on the other board. :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Scuderi is gone to LA. He might have made a nice addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I'm a bit surprised that there's no offer sheets for Stafford. An offer of over 1.1 million would make the Sabres match. You'd thing his agent would be talking to someone. Unless of course he likes it here, being a top four guy whereas somewhere else he would crack the top 6. Teams are going to go after the free guys first before they would look at a 2nd level guy like Stafford. This isn't an elite RFA like Vanek was 2 years ago. A guy like Kessel will get some consideration before teams turn to that next wave of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Did you see what LA paid for Scuderi??? My buddies who root for the Pens are laughing hysterically. Yeh, 3.4. He had a heckuv a series, but really not sure about this, not as much as Spacek though and he is younger. We will see, my problem with all of this is how much it screws with team chemistry. Losing D guys especially can really hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Makes Spacek deal look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=34760 The best site for UFA RFA rules and they update the players as they sign with teams. And MacArthur is going to arbitration. To be completely accurate, GR said that MacArthur is arbitration eligible but I don't believe the arbitration decisions can be made yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 To be completely accurate, GR said that MacArthur is arbitration eligible but I don't believe the arbitration decisions can be made yet. "MacArthur is scheduled to have a salary arbitration hearing." I assumed by this they meant he's going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 "MacArthur is scheduled to have a salary arbitration hearing." I assumed by this they meant he's going. I think that's worded poorly. I don't think any players have filed yet, let alone had the hearings scheduled already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbossy Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I believe Mancari was also given a qualifying offer as well. Let me see if I can find it. Here it is: http://www.buffalonews.com/buffalosabres/story/719004.html They also gave a qualifying offer to Marek Zagrapan in order to keep his rights in case he decides to come back to North America. Someone help here, if they give him a qualifying offer and he doesn't take it, do they still retain his rights? Well, Grabovski just re-signed with Toronto for $2.9 million per year. Grabovski had 20 goals and 49 points, I believe, so that signing works well for the Sabres. You are probably looking at somewhere in the $2.5 million/year range for Stafford if he re-signs with Buffalo. An offer sheet would obviously inflate that value, but I'm think $2.5-$3.0 million/year is where Stafford will end up getting signed on a 3 year deal with Buffalo. Callahan just re-signed with the Rangers for 2 years 4.6 million. Stafford has better numbers than him and I think another year in the league. Did Sather overpay and screw us? Do you let Stafford go with an offer sheet and get a second rounder? Then keep MacArthur and give Gerbe/Kennedy more ice time? Thought I'd post it, still have to come to a conclusion in my head about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Someone help here, if they give him a qualifying offer and he doesn't take it, do they still retain his rights? As best as I can tell, he can't become unrestricted until he's 25. He's only 22 now. They can just keep qualifying him up until that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Someone help here, if they give him a qualifying offer and he doesn't take it, do they still retain his rights?Callahan just re-signed with the Rangers for 2 years 4.6 million. Stafford has better numbers than him and I think another year in the league. Did Sather overpay and screw us? Do you let Stafford go with an offer sheet and get a second rounder? Then keep MacArthur and give Gerbe/Kennedy more ice time? Thought I'd post it, still have to come to a conclusion in my head about it. Rather have Staff at 2.2 than Mac over 1.3. Rather have Moore at 1.8 than Staff at 2.2, but that's with getting the second rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Do you let Stafford go with an offer sheet and get a second rounder? Then keep MacArthur and give Gerbe/Kennedy more ice time? No, no, and no. You let Mac walk if you have to .....but you pay Stafford should he sign an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 No, no, and no. You let Mac walk if you have to .....but you pay Stafford should he sign an offer. How high do U go for Stafford? 10 years 40 million? One year under 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I take that back. The qualifying offers expired yesterday. There's your reason why Kaleta accepted it. The rest are on their own when it comes to negotiations now. So Sekera's holding out? Or Darcy wants him gone? I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 How high do U go for Stafford? 10 years 40 million? One year under 3? I think the only one with a cap position that might reasonably do something crazy like that would be the New York Islanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 So Sekera's holding out? Or Darcy wants him gone? I hope not. No, he just wants to negotiate something for more than the QO. He wants more years, money, and not a two-way deal, I'm sure. It's nothing major, happens all the time. Hell, even Mancari didn't accept the QO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 i think i is confused. so, is it the case that the QO's to sekera and stafford have expired? and they haven't demanded arbitration? and they remain RFA's? so right now there are no offers on the table to the two of them, and the team and the agents for those players are presumably in the process of negotiating a deal? in the meantime, another club is free to come in and sign those guys to offer sheets? i saw the post about callahan - i've assumed all along that it's going to take $2.5-$2.75 to get stafford signed - are we looking more at $3 now, as cheese suggests? EDIT: got it, shrader. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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