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I stand corrected, he hadn't fully tucked it in. Good eye juju

This is actually incorrect in this situation. The moment his arm, above the wrist, touched the ground out of bounds, he was down. He had possession when that happened. It's akin to "stepping out of bounds". Think of it this way, his feet went out of bounds before his body touched the ground, that is an immediate whistle and end of play. I.E. A player foot steps out of bounds a split second before the ball is fumbled. It's a dead ball before the fumble. There are contradicting calls within these rule sections.

If you think it wasn't a catch based on the bobbling of the ball after ground contact, watch the video closely, look specifically at which of his body parts touch the ground first, out of bounds mind you, after his feet established a legal catch inbounds. Then, go read the section of the rules on "Down by contact", out of bounds. You'll be mad when you see the contradictions between that rule and the overturned call.

Here is the rule, with the notes, as prescribed in and currently enforced by the NFL as of this date.... ARTICLE 3. COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds: (A) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and (B) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and (C) after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so. Notes: (1) Movement of the ball does not automatically result in loss of control. (2) If a player, who satisfied (a) and (b), but has not satisfied (c), contacts the ground and loses control of the ball, it is an incomplete pass if the ball hits the ground before he regains control, or if he regains control out of bounds. (3) A receiver is considered a player in a defenseless posture (See Rule 12, Section 2, Article 9) throughout the entire process of the catch and until the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent. (4) If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both players retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control. If the ball is muffed after simultaneous touching by two such players, all the players of the passing team become eligible to catch the loose ball. (5) If a player, who is in possession of the ball, is held up and carried out of bounds by an opponent before both feet or any part of his body other than his hands touches the ground inbounds, it is a completed or intercepted pass. It is not necessary for the player to maintain control of the ball when he lands out of bounds.

A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds: (A) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and (B) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and (C) after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.

I wonder, is that due to poor bounces, poor decisions on ice I.E. loosing the puck due to errant passes/possession, or getting caught to far up ice. Not taking the body in the slot or net front. Or if it's a coached strategy situation. I.E. Granato and staff encouraging d men to pinch the opponents blue line. Or telling the players to pressure the opponent along the perimeter in our D zone, leaving the slot/net front exposed.

The notes under the NFL rules is pretty clear it's considered incomplete pass/interception. It's under Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3 Completed or intercepted passes. Note 2: If a player, who satisfied (a) and (b), but has not satisfied (c), contacts the ground and loses control of the ball, it is an incomplete pass if the ball hits the ground before he regains control, or if he regains control out of bounds. I suspect that is what they made the call from the sky box with upon review. Like yourself, I don't agree with it.

Dallas offense isn't on the same tier as Buffalo, defense Buffalo looks better to.

They aren't fragile, they are incomplete.... We needva goalie, by hook or by crook.

Strategies!

No, don't jinx it.... Don't be .... (PA)......That guy! 🤣

When this team decides to attack the net, they are good, scary good. Great team play tonight. If Granato told them to commit to the program, they heard him. Much much better play so far.

If he doesn't want to be a part of creating a contender, his compete level isn't a fit for the Sabres.

Lol, Quinn

Well, at least the team didn't get foolish and sign him to an extension or something 🤔

Wtf was Dahlin doing there?

This team is not playing 60 minutes of hockey.

I'm sorry, but Donny saying this group will have to fight through these kind of collapses is no longer going to cut it. This team has a real problem with catastrophic game collapses. The players aren't working through it.

Cozens!

Sigh Clear the front of the net Challenge the shooter

When I saw this thread title, I honestly thought it was a bumped thread from 2 years ago. When I opened it up.......I cringed. Let's not do this again. Please?

There was some minor questionable officiating at the end there, but nothing I'd get worked up to much about. This team has offensive talent, the young forwards especially, are really progressing nicely. The defense and goaltending still need improvement, and while I know the rumor mill on chykrun is out there. If he improves the D, you pay the price to grab him imho. As for goaltending......I got nothing, I just don't know if anything is out there that can elevate the position, I defer to you all. That's my take is all. Good game.

Quinn is playing with great confidence, this kid is going to be great. But Tage is just...... I have no words.

And the plot thickens.....

Hope you enjoyed your family Thanksgiving BN.