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Came in late to his interview. What was the player Ray said is not guaranteed to make the team, and Bulldog thought was?

Not sure if you saw the follow up post of this... Most states measure duty days to determine when these visiting athletes should be taxed. This includes practice days, along with game days, that are spent in that state (and city depending on whether that city levies a jock tax as well). To determine the duty days spent in each visiting state, the work days spent in the visiting state are divided by the number of workdays in a season, from preseason through the postseason. So Tampa plays Buffalo once in NYS, so as long as they depart that evening, Players are subject to roughly .37% of their income (which is 1 day divided by the total season of 270 days) at the NYS state income tax level. Based on Points AAV that equates to less than $2,000, or insignificant.

I agree with the bold. But not much else, although I hope your right. Love to see a head coach have a Svengali effect that energizes the team. What if Vlad and Tage have breakout seasons? Heads would explode, and we would see the ROR trade thread debated once again. Not expecting this, but any is possible.

These are standard Income tax rates for high wage earners. Found on multiple sites in a Google search for effective tax rate. Also note that just b/c TB plays 41 road games, does not imply 1/2 of their salary is subject to that local tax rate. Players aren’t limited to federal, state, and city income taxes though, as they also face jock taxes – but these aren’t resident taxes, rather they are specifically designed to tax visiting workers. NHL players owe taxes in a number of states they visit and even some cities. Players aren’t limited to federal, state, and city income taxes though, as they also face jock taxes – but these aren’t resident taxes, rather they are specifically designed to tax visiting workers. NHL players owe taxes in a number of states they visit and even some cities. Non-resident taxes have been levied in a number of states for years. After the 1991 NBA Final between the Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers, taxation of visiting athletes trended upwards and became a revenue stream for states and cities. These non-resident taxes in the United States and Canada aren’t limited to just athletes, but to the staff traveling with the teams throughout the season as well. Essentially, any non-resident workers that perform work from which they earn income are subject to these taxes. Most states measure duty days to determine when these visiting athletes should be taxed. This includes practice days, along with game days, that are spent in that state (and city depending on whether that city levies a jock tax as well). To determine the duty days spent in each visiting state, the work days spent in the visiting state are divided by the number of workdays in a season, from preseason through the postseason. Illinois only taxes visiting athletes if their home state taxes Illinois athletes when they play away games – so the Stars don’t owe the state of Illinois a jock tax when in Chicago because the Blackhawks aren’t taxed by the state of Texas.

Let's compare to Marner's deal using the effective tax rates between Toronto and Florida. I've also assumed that in year 2022 Point could be looking at a $15M AAV deal. After three years under a third deal (assuming he resigns in a US state with no state tax, like Tampa), Point he exceeds the 6 year total of Marner's current deal. And by a lot. So I'm not going to declare this completely one-sided.

Might not be easy, but I bet a GM could trade one of these high priced/elite players for three or maybe four of these depth players for about the same AAV. The theory being to solidify the middle six. Building depth seems like it’s impervious to failure. ?

Do not legitimize this.

+1 on the bold. I have a feeling if there is any chemistry with these three it could be what the second line looks like opening night.

Smart by Miami. Trading with KC, Packers, Philly or the Cowboys will not yield a top 10 pick, which could very well happen with Pittsburgh. From the Steeler perspective not sure what they think they can achieve this year. How many first rounders from Miami next year? Three, plus the first overall? Epic Tank.

If we were playing Card Sharks, I’d say “Jim, I’m going higher”.

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,Courage to change the things I can,And wisdom to know the difference.

Where are the SabreSpace Goalie experts that can dispute this? Binnington @ #9 overall with just one year logged. Cory Crawford @ #18? https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/the-great-goalie-ranking-how-the-nhls-31-no-1-netminders-stack-up-heading-into-2019-20

Or could it be that the ROR trade had a date specific accelerant that affected the return. He took the best of what was out there, and this time there is none, and his evaluation of the return offered is not what is deemed acceptable. Yet.

Yeah, can stand him for many reasons. His affiliation with Boston obviously tops on the list. I know Sabres fans thinks he hates Buffalo. I haven’t seen a recent bias but still don’t like him.

I expect a follow up where Pat Sharp replaces Milbury in Studio permanently. It’s all about growing the sport, and 67 year old dinosaurs are not capturing the right demo.

Then let's stop debating it. We agree what the term should be. We agree his years 4-? will be extremely successful. We disagree slightly with the AAV. In my opinion, no one is worth 20%.

Of course you don't offer 5, but as you state above (which I agree with whole heatedly), the RFA leverage is using 5 years as a way to hedge their bets to both a.) get paid now, and b.) still obtain a max year deal after. I'm just saying IF you have to go with a 5 year deal (like Matthews) then you try to max out your opportunities in that window, which includes other UFA's and then negotiate after that time. Same would apply for a 3 year bridge. And IF you want to go 8 (whihc I'm all for as an option too), based on the limited negotiation power of an RFA, it certainly would not be 17.2 million AAV. You would only be competing against yourself.

Neither. I'm suggesting a bridge contract allows Salary Cap decisions for other players in 2021 that allows them to compete for the cup for at least 3-5 years. A Max deal for Dahlin, assuming Sam is going to get his this year ($8.5 AAV) would place the Sabres in 2021 with 4 players consuming 52% of the Cap. I'm saying it does not have to be this way. A 2-4 year deal in the $10M range will allow other signings so the team can compete between 2012-2025. Whereas a Max deal would not.

I'm on record stating the Sabres will deliver a Stanley Cup based on Dahlin's timeline, not Eichel's, so I'm right there with you on expectations. Similar to the Kings playoff run in 2011/12 with Doughty. However there is a reason the CBA is drafted the way it is, so that RFA's have less bargaining power. Of course the trend is to lock up players longer & earlier, but to assume a Max deal is even an option is ludicrous. You bridge or go to 5 years to ensure you have cap space for others. THEN you pay Max. Not after your ELC.

@dudacek I appreciate the list of NCAA Player comparisons and the cogent defense of his collegiate career. I think I too gave up on his ability to contribute to the Sabres this season. Partly due to his point production, advanced metrics and overall observations. But comparing his overall PPG at UConn to the others, and assuming the ratio of difficulty (.41) interesting to note: Eichel is performing 24% better than the "assumed" rate of difficulty using NCAA stats Larkin 22% better Roslovik 19% better Boeser 59% better Connor - 6% worse Compher 15% worse Tage is 46% worse I would not be surprised to see him start in Rochester regardless of his performance in camp. Ralph and others using tough love to see if he has the intestinal fortitude to push and prove himself there first. What I definitely know is that looking at Tages' collegiate numbers, and AHL numbers compared to others, and factoring his age, has left me a glimmer of hope that a 18/18 year (this or next) is reasonable to expect.

Max salary is 20% of the upper limit. With salary cap projections for 2021 of $86m that’s $17.2. Uh-No thank you.

Let me add more of what Rakish supplied. From Natural Stat Trick. Jack and Jeff played only about 24 minutes the entire season 5v5 without one of these three: Sam, Jason or Evan. With an obvious lion-share to Jason and Sam. And while Jason's TOI was half of Sams, his splits suggest they (Jack and Jeff) played better with Jason than with Sam. Higher Corsi, Higher Fenwick, Higher shots for %, higher goals for %, and higher % of HD goals for. Now I don't believe that Jason is better than Sam in any way, but what I observed in the first part of the year is that Jason did not look out of place on a first line of a team that was in contention and competitive. I think Sam's time spent on the first line was sufficient for him to gain the confidence that he can drive play, and execute without Jack or Jeff. KO got 12 minutes, and Tage 10. The results were awful. Maybe the 2018 Sabres did not have another piece that would fit besides Jason or Sam, but Housley did not seem to even experiment with the idea. The intent of including other stats is to suggest that a good player/finisher (Vesey/Olofsson?) can help deliver similar results on the top line while at the same time leveraging Sam to provide better results on the second line.

Building a Culture? More like ....

NHL – Wayne Gretzky. MLB – Deadball era (Ruth), modern (Mays), post modern (Trout) NFL – Brady (as much as I hate it) NBA – Jordan Golf – Nicklaus Tennis – Serena Williams Boxing – Ali. Beach Volleyball - Walsh/Treanor Curling - Kevin Martin Rollerball - Jon-a-than