PerreaultForever

Well just trading Reinhart isn't going to solve anything but I'd certainly welcome moving on from the entire core as I've said repeatedly. None of them have emerged as hard working leaders and so none of them are untouchable. In all trades it of course depends on what you get back but I think you either go all in on deals or you don't bother cause moving one or two bodies won't change anything. Reinhart's name was just mentioned though as one name or many. The statement was that they're calling everybody and all names are on the table for discussions. On the current active roster the only untouchable to me is Cozens. I wouldn't trade Bryson or Borgen or any of the prospects that seem promising like Pekera. I'd want a lot for Dahlin as I think he can still be saved with the right team and coaching. Pretty much everybody else is expendable or irrelevant.

I'd prefer that too, but it's a little too abstract to go deeper. The big names presumably involve a combination.

I'd gut the team and get as many picks and prospects as possible. Trade all UFAs and even all RFAs (but some of those can wait until later if necessary). Also going to trade Eichel but that also can wait if necessary until the off season. I've had enough of this lot.

Carlo is 6'5 and he was not bent over so not sure how you can argue it wasn't a head shot but I'm not overly concerned. Wilson is a repeat offender so you'd think the league would suspend him but whatever.

You are as delusional as the Sabres.

I'm going to be blunt. Eichel sucks. Not only is he quitting on offensive plays, he's a defensive liability. He's checked out, he doesn't care, whatever the excuse, he's crap and so, as a team built around him and supposedly led by him we as a team also suck. If Tortorella was our coach he'd be benched, The entire team is clearly delusional. I like some aspects of Bryson's game, he has real potential (but I can already see it, we're going to rush him in and ruin him) and it was nice he got his first NHL goal but in the intermission interview down 4-1 "we're playing a pretty good game" is some sort of alternative reality I'm clearly not part of.. Either the kid is incredibly dumb (which I doubt very much) or this is the positive crap they're being fed in the locker room and it is the most unbelievable rubbish ever. If that was a "pretty good game" the bar is so low it's submerged in the swamp. How much are we paying Montour? Whatever it is, it's too much. This team sucks so bad. Barzel goal was sick. Unfortunately for us it'll probably make the plays of the year reel. Aren't Hall and Eichel supposed to be the ones dazzling us with that sort of thing? What a draft year that was, and now I'm not sure we even got the 2nd best player in it. Such a pile of crap this team.

We might win a few games somewhere along the line due to teams not taking us seriously or facing back up goalies but otherwise I've seen absolutely nothing that tells me we can even compete with the level of hockey being played by the big boys.

I still don't understand why people think Ralph has power? He was a JBot hire and he will be let go, just a question of whether or not it's earlier than later but he won't be the coach next year. They will likely attempt to sell us on the usual new coach crap for a new year. Adams hires his coach and if he fails maybe another or maybe him and his coach go, it's a tired tune.

I watched the game. As soon as the hit was delivered Wagner took Wilson to the ice and basically bashed his face into the ice (he got a nice cut on his nose) but he didn't drop them right there because they wanted the major penalty I think they assumed they'd get. When they didn't, they took on Wilson (a big tough guy) first chance they got and then came at the Caps with numerous hits on Ovi and Oshie and others. They were relentless and scored 3 goals while Wilson was in the box for the fight. And as I mentioned Bergeron skated over to salute Tinordi while they drove up the score. Then Frederick took on Wilson again in the 3rd since the refs for some reason felt it was a good idea to keep Wilson in the game lol. The hitting in that game was as I said, relentless. It was absolutely nothing like a Sabres response. Hence, your depiction is misleading. Bruins came together, as they do, and Tinordi in his second game became a team and fan favourite already. We are so far from that it's like our sorry lot are minor leaguers (except for one or two like Cozens who haven't learned to play Sabres hockey yet).

Ya, but we could have. Bruins got him off waivers. With Borgen and McCabe injured I do not understand why we did not snap him up first. Washington poked the bear and the bear bit back hard. And, although I know the nice manners new crowd won't get this, but talk about leadership! Tinordi fights Wilson, Bergeron scores and goes by the penalty box and taps the glass for Tinordi. I know many people won't get that gesture, but believe me, that is the kind of thing that unites and fires up a team to be a team. Krueger should make the Sabres watch this game over and over and over until they find their hearts. Sorry, your depiction is dead wrong. They answered in spades.

But, much like the team on the ice, he hasn't actually done anything.

He's angry. We should be angry. He's gonna fix it. lol.

Not buying it. Three coaches, three systems, same results. This team lacks heart and no coach can teach that. Besides how is it the system? This team doesn't go to the net and doesn't defend in front of their net. That's not by design. The system doesn't say stay away from their net and play soft in front of ours.

Krueger's latest comments tell me he has absolutely no answer. His positive motivation approach has failed and he doesn't have a plan B. I don't actually believe there is any coach that can motivate this bunch, I'd prefer selling off the core but the starting point has to be an experienced hockey coach with a solid work ethic approach as a rock solid foundation and then anyone who doesn't respond or buy into that gets shipped out of town as soon as possible.

I really don't buy into this tough division crap. It's loser excuse talk. We're not playing Toronto, Tampa, Florida. We don't have to go to Colorado or Vegas. We don't have long west coast road trips. It's total rubbish. We have no excuse. The tank stripped away any talent we had (very little) but this team has the so called talent. What has been stripped away is any semblance of effort or desire.

I'd say it was the Cleveland Browns, but now they've come out of it finally so I think you're right, it's the Sabres.

Can we put Skinner on LTIR for the rest of his contract? Permanently bruised ego or something?

Sutter.

Agreed. I actually like some of what I see in Bryson. He needs more development and should be brought along slowly, but I see potential there and parts of his game are already better than Montour's imo. I personally would have snagged Tinordi before the Bruins did but am indifferent to Guhle.

Maybe you will, maybe many will, but I won't. I've been a Sabres fan for about 45 years but I'm just about done. I didn't bother with an NHL TV package this year. Still own 1 jersey but wouldn't buy a new anything even if it's on sale. Don't live in Buffalo so tickets aren't an issue but I won't go see them in Vancouver or Seattle. I almost nod off in games now. Losing more and more interest. It's pointless. I'm giving this off season a chance, but if we go into next year with this same "core" I am seriously considering dropping them for good. Too old to really embrace a new team, although I might try Seattle since they're close to my home. Probably not though, just casually watch good games. We shall see. It's sad that last year we had "JBot do something" and now here we are again.

We had the chance. I mean maybe they were asked and weren't interested (but I doubt it) but the timing was right for both of them.

against a team that was barely breaking a sweat.

Well good on Florida, no wonder they're improving fast. Hired an experienced coach and a senior advisor as we should have.

I don't think anybody has really brought their A game playing us. You take the Islanders tonight, they were laughing on their bench in the first period and pretty much coasting through most of the game. It is very easy to shut us down with simple basic defense. The only thing we have going for us is teams don't want to take penalties so they play a basic non physical game.

I missed that one. When did he take that job?