PerreaultForever

Why I'd rather burn it all down and rise up like a phoenix than try to put meat on the bones of the corpse.

I read somewhere that Columbus wants to get bigger and more physical again so I don't see them being interested in Marner or even Reinhart. They are looking to trade a goalie though so I'd look at that for sure. and idk what some of you are talking about. Seth Jones is a very good player and much better than Risto.

Oh yay, we're a decaying skeleton. How wonderful for us lol.

If you say so. Many people, like me, disagree. https://theathletic.com/2320544/2021/01/13/canadiens-built-for-playoffs/ https://www.tsn.ca/montreal-canadiens-stun-toronto-maple-leafs-in-game-7-to-complete-series-comeback-1.1647947 (Dave Poulin in the video) https://thehockeywriters.com/canadiens-3-takeaways-from-2021-round-1-win/ I believe the sentence in that one goes "it's been said the Canadians were built for the playoffs ad nauseum" Keep googling, you'll find lots more. Some people here simply seem to fail to grasp that there are 2 types of hockey and regular season stats mean nothing come playoff hockey time.

This is what I'm trying to preach about culture and how to build this bottom to top instead of top down and thus why we should in fact trade all of Eichel, Reinhart and Risto, start over and do it right. Montreal was built for the playoffs rather than the regular season. They probably won't get past Winnipeg who can also play playoff hockey but it's a better approach than Toronto's. Babcock was not wrong.

There is, but I think it definitely proves you won't get there relying on outscoring the opposition with a few big offensive stars. To win in the playoffs you also need great goaltending more than anything else, at least one and more likely two solid big minute D pairings and a shutdown center and/or line. If you give all your money to 4 forwards there's not enough left for the rest of that.

and FUVM. Jeff Skinner waves back at you.

But Colorado is built entirely differently. Yes, they have a top line, all great teams do, but as you say the back end is key. The point is unless you get to cap cheat like Tampa you can't have all those star contracts and have enough left over to build that back end and have a well balanced team.

I disagree with all of this as you know, except for the bolded. Goalie should be the starting point imo not an after thought like we've handled it. Murray was not wrong in getting a top goalie to build off of, he just might have (arguably) got us the wrong one and overpaid for him. The idea was correct though. We go nowhere without dominant goaltending. We've missed the boat on that so far (hope for UPL).

Saw that. He was a little feisty too. Looked really good.

Interesting comment I saw on twitter. Only 1 of the top 10 salaries in the NHL is still playing hockey in these playoffs, and that is Carey Price. Proof that the superstar model doesn't work in a cap league?

Guess this thread can get locked 🙂

Well I wouldn't trade Eichel for Matthews cause Matthews has already proven he's playoff incapable. Eichel might be too, but we don't know yet do we. Really, I don't want any of those Toronto "stars" cause every year they keep proving that their model is the wrong way to build a hockey team. Why? I see no reason for this to go together. If we're cleaning house we should scrub hard and clean it all.

I don't really want a "roster player" unless it's a very good one like a Tkachuk or a Schiefele so I go with the guideline of the old offer signing rules so 4 1sts. In this case we don't want to wait all those years so I'd say 2 top prospects like Turcotte and Byfield for example and 2 additional non conditional 1st rounders. One of those picks for Bedard's year cause, well, you never knowm Eichel might ruin the team he goes to and it's worth the gamble.

Yup. Earlier in a free agent related thread I was saying we should try to land Cizikas if he'd come, which I doubt. Was a really good close game. So many hits, and speaking of 4th lines we could have (snicker) did you notice how this Curtis Lazar guy throws the puck in and plays hit the D man first a lot? Guy likes to throw his body around. We could use a guy like that too :) and just SO glad the Laughs did it again.

The Flyers need to try to be more like the dastardly Flyers. That team is a mess and might be a good trade partner for any number of possible deals.

probably roller hockey in the summer 🙂

Oh I know where this is directed................ I can counter this easily. First, isn't it amazing that despite all those bad draft picks and trade mistakes they are consistently still that good? How does that happen? Where does it come from? I wonder....... So I'm going to make it short and sweet. Cam F'n Neely. Named Vice President in 2007 and President in 2010 and Bruins have been really good and had a great culture when exactly? So the solution here was simple. Rick F'n Dudley should have been given that role here and molded this team in his image the way Cam molded that one in his. Yes, it's that freakin' simple. This is where I drop the mic I think.............

He's been tried there before. There has however always been this idea to play him with Eichel. Give Eichel the best RW possible or something like that.

Exactly. No argument there. and like Hall, that includes Eichel and Reinhart and probably several others.

In my opinion that is a simplistic and incorrect view. It's about a lot more than simply winning, and not realizing that is why we aren't winning regardless of who we draft, who we sign, or what we do. Winning would definitely be nice, but to truly get back to where we were in the golden days it's going to take a huge culture shift.

Not about how he's playing, but about how much he likes it there and why. The team culture. It's a culture that brings out the best in players and makes them want to give their all for their team. Pat LaFontaine understood it, there's your initial mistake. They keep going from there. idk about "kick his ass" but you watch how that team interacts with each other on and off the ice. We were like that once upon a time...............

I know this won't be popular, but I'm enjoying it. To me it magnifies the problems with this franchise. Maybe if the Pegulas are watching it too they will finally get it.

I really don't think signing Eakin is any big thing one way or the other. Bottom line player, a couple years, easily benched. Small mistake. The real problem this team has (for years to come) is Jeff Skinner. There is simply no way to build a winner when you're paying, what, 1.3 million per goal or thereabouts. and it's not like he suddenly got great after RK was fired either.

I could see Arizona really wanting to make a deal. They might envision a new marketing scheme based on an American superstar (they still probably resent Toronto winning that lottery for Matthews). Not sure they'd give up all their young players though. Eichel wouldn't want a full rebuild either. More likely they'd offer future draft picks so not sure we'd want that. Fan base certainly wouldn't.