Curt

Was tonight some sort of a turning point? They could play at a 112 pt pace for the next 33 games but not at a 115 pt pace for 32 games? The 2019-20 Sabres just never were a playoff caliber team.

This is a bit much.

Ullmark didn’t look good. If this team starts Hutton 3/4 starts for a month it’s probably going to be bad news.

It was called roughing on Frolik. Call a high stick on Skinner, fine, but the call was weird.

What kind of a call was that? Time for a SHG Nevermind.......

Rick just called Sheary Ennis

He was a good skater before 1,000 injuries. That was the original appeal of Bogo the prospect/young player. Big strong mean physical guy who could actually skate.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but I want to knit pick a little. People, and perhaps teams, do track things like passes into danger areas, shots from danger areas, controlled zone entries, and a bunch of other stuff for prospects. You want to find players who are already successfully doing some of the things that you value highly from your NHL players. It’s not that any one statistic is going to guarantee NHL success, but stuff like this is useful information to consider alongside traditional scouting. What Buffalo in particular looks at, I could only guess.

This 18 year old Curtis Jones guy that you used as an example, is a good example. He has played 13 games with the academy team this season and has also spent time with the premier league club, or is still there now.

Red, Rusty, Red Baron (who was German), Red Sniper, Red Striper, Curly Jack, Jacky Boy, Tank Fruit, The Red Captain, Captain Red, Der Rote Kapitan, The Great Red Hope. These are suggestion. As a hole, they are not great.

Who knows, but Miller has to agree with you. He has consistently put his personal life ahead of his professional life the past few years. If Getzlaf wants to go to a good team to try to win, is he picking Buffalo?

Getzlaf has a full NMC. Is he going to waive it to go to Buffalo? Miller has a MNTC where he can only be traded to 6 teams. He wants to be on the west coast for his spouse’s work. Doubt he is coming to Buffalo.

Pretty much every team has a few young guys who split time between the premier league and academy teams every year. Go check their stats.

Have you watched the Sabres for the past 10 years???

I think it’s because they feel this is someone who has truly touched their life in some way

This is a thread for random things. Its the one thread that can’t be derailed. That is interesting about the Muslim faith and pork. I didn’t know that.

They do that all the time actually with younger players.

It’s more or less equivalent, no?

They do have farm systems. They have “junior” teams for different age groups. They work with these kids to develop as players. It’s a farm system.

It would never never happen because owner have teams that are worth a certain amount. If the team is relegated, the value o the franchise would drop significantly. They don’t want to risk that for no reason, and they are the ones who would need to vote on and approve such an incredibly drastic change. There is just no incentive.

I agree on Samuelsson. I feel confident that he will play NHL games because he is big (6’4” 220) strong, mean, and has NHL bloodlines. He will probably be at least a good AHL player that spends some time as a 5th/6th/7th/8th D on some teams. No doubt he will be good in the corners and in front of the net, but I question his upside. I think that his skating/mobility will in large part determine how impactful he can be at the NHL level. Will he be nimble enough to defend in space? Or will he be a pillar that gets consistently beat be quick players? I think Samuelsson is an interesting contrast to Ryan Johnson. Also a mostly defensive defenseman, but in a much more modern mold. Johnson is not big (6’1” 175), but is a feisty guy. He is a very good skater and puck handler. He should develop into a very good defender in space who can also use his quick feet and hands to evade an aggressive forecheck, although not as good in the corners and net front as a Samuelsson type. I just think it’s interesting. These two guys drafted in back to back years, in the same range, by the same organization, both defensive defensemen in college, but with completely different skill sets. It’s like new school vs old school defensive Dmen.

Yeah, I could see that being true. I don’t twitter, and I am very rarely tempted to start.

I don’t feel that way.

Chad does have some contacts in the organization. He gets media credentials. He does sometimes get information that outsiders do not.

How many teams in the league have a 4th line made up of guys who are producing 10 goals and 30 points? Almost no players produce that while getting 4th line minutes.