Thorny

They should have known better when they didn’t fire Kevyn Adams better, Punch?

You just go off on these poster not the post rants because you can’t stand the fact you can’t stand on merit vs my arguments. It’s just time and time again - “anything we get from Norris beyond nothing is gravy”. Your takes are stinky.

You just tell on yourself with this, because I didn’t do what he’s claiming in his post you have no argument

All managers have to get their owners to sign off on deals - the argument has never been that the GM needs free reign it’s that they can construct a plan that shows results to the tune of them actually building up sway and confidence with regards to the owner - so many fail to grasp that in these relationships the manager ALWAYS knows more about hockey than the owner, one of the biggest components of a GMs job is in fact massaging thst relationship the idea that I have to explain how someone as demonstrably and obviously as poor a communicator as Adams might struggle with this after 6 years is sort of astounding. I mean I legitimately can’t believe I’m wasting time arguing online with MJD still about how Kevyn Adams should be fired regardless of Terry I wasn’t arguing with any of those posters but MJD who constantly intimates it please point out where I attributed it to anyone specifically but him in thread Edit - that’s what I thought

I call my own shot on it because absurdly no one else will - I posted at length regarding how any why this would fail 5 years ago and it happened exactly. Look back to the Eichel posts. When I was on an island. Still am because admitting it sucks, I guess. its not my fault you are constantly on the other side. I truly do not care about your fortune cookie “those who give themselves credit” nonsense. The receipts are there

The island is people that don’t believe Adams deserves to be fired.

“Terry over meddles” is a narrative from 3 years ago. He’s generally absentee - the issue isn’t that he’s micromanaging, it’s that he leaves Adams to his own devices without adequate support both financial and otherwise

I’ve been right about the team over the last 5 years more than any other poster by far on this issue specifically, sorry, but it’s a fact If I have one, incredibly salient and accurate point, you have none

No, that pegula is the biggest problem is obvious and is neither here nor there wrt my point

Can’t blame a player, it’s the GM who iced the roster cant blame the GM, it’s the owner who hired them can’t blame the owner, it’s his parents that birthed him lol enough. You still attempt to improve. At the highest level you can. Terry OWNS the team. Assuming that’s the case, you still expect him to try again at GM. Just like you expect a GM to address a roster that has holes (of that GM’s making!) ”there’s no use trying to improve the roster, the GM in the past failed when doing so so don’t try again” - it’s just an absurd line of thought that Terry should fire Adams because he’s done a terrible job isn’t an opinion it’s the only logical stance possible

And there’s zero reason we can’t hire a GM that doesn’t construct teams that need everything to be perfect for success to be achieved - Adams constructs teams one negative coin flip away from disaster : that’s his MO Harrington is on record saying it’s ridiculous Adams hasn’t been fired you are on an island A total, total island

It’s “Byram” And the sabres don’t “have enough scoring” as you claimed all offseason. And things aren’t “a ok” because Norris is merely not a net negative. 0/4 post game ..and still carrying water for Adams. You are wrong nearly as often as the sabres

No matter how many times it’s pointed out to you that Adams is the one calling the shots and Terry is signing off you aren’t getting it. Adams has done a demonstrably poor job not only roster wise but convincing Terry to spend. The mere idea of keeping Adams reinforces the idea there are no expectations. You are on an island in saying firing/hiring him is irrelevant Staal and Jarmo weren’t hired as managers or assistant managers. I don’t need to let anything go unless it’s the idea you’ll admit to being wrong when you clearly are

Jarmo and Staal aren’t even adds to the management group, so your correction of my supposed erroneousness was in fact erroneous. They were added as special advisors

Token hire - Adams didn’t want veteran help I already said - you know what I meant. The manager is still the same

For the love of god can we not do the “doesn’t matter if we fire Adams” thing? he deserves to be fired for god awful performance, full stop never mind the fact that he’s not executing Terry’s plan, Terry is signing off on Adams’ half assed one. OF COURSE it might help if we fire him - the very fact Pegula deemed in the scenario that the performance wasn’t good enough would be a welcome sign on and of itself the GM’s job is to present a working solution the the owner and convince them of it - it’s the same for all GMs

No, the report was that Adams argued for not needing advisors because he felt threatened by them You know what I meant. The key management guys are still the same

It’s frankly unfathomable they ran back the management group - they knew this was coming they had to

Don’t wanna be all “sky is falling” but good grief. This is Adams’ *6th year* where we’ve averaged 78 points per, and we start out 0-2. What are we doing here

0-2. ”Sabres have enough scoring”

Must win

They need to act like there is a standard, now. It’s ok to operate like there’s no standard for another 6 months? “The line must be drawn here! This far! No further!” they have ingrained a culture of low expectations, ironic given the mandate upon which “Kevyn Adams” took over. Draw the line. Fire him. Should someone better become available later, you’ll have a better chance of landing them for having shown you have a standard

Just paraphrasing Adams in the video What a cluster f*ck

Absolutely. Like, enough is enough. Two wrong don’t make a right, I get pegula is bad but good ***** grief. This guy Adams was on the phone saying he had no concern about Josh’s injury history. He is *not competent*. If there is 0.0000001 chances he’s feeding his ill-begotten opinions and strategies to the owner he must go Get him the f*ck out of buffalo FFS. FFS!