Thorny

Agree. Top 2 for sure

Adams thinks Yzerman is a great GM. Right on track in Detroit, he says

Baseball is the most cinematic sport. The intense close ups, every moment built up.. no kevyn Adams… I absolutely love it

The Sabres are always like, “this year we learn to play defence!” “this year we learn to play as a team!” ”this year we’ll work out properly in the offseason!” they aren’t in the business of winning, they are a tax write off

That’s why I never understand the people that will carry water for him just because there are other incompetent people around too. He’s not likeable. I have no comment on him personally but as a general manager he comes off like a smug, arrogant doofus This event represents a low point in my 38 years as a fan I’m not sure they realize how tone deaf they are

I reckon our ceiling is around 24th for this season, I think we can get there. 5 teams (Philly, Seattle*, Boston, Pittsburgh, outside shot at Anaheim) I’d say we can reasonably catch. 4 of which we have a better goal differential than*. Of course this is most notable re: draft position. Could see us picking around 9th if we finish strong

Also Norris makes 8 million dollars haha. It can’t just be addition by subtraction/Sabre must really believe in him not that otherwise is suggested specifically in this thread but I’ve seen it

Go Jays

The last thing he’d want to do is lay out actual goals because then he could be evaluated against them He has the concept of a plan

That’s embarrassing if true identifying things that don’t work is the only easy part. If the return doesn’t matter nearly as much, they aren’t focusing on the actual building blocks of winning. This is repeated behaviour with Adams. Cut Skinner, worry about rest later. Don’t sign Ullmark, worry about goaltending later (still worrying). Now this No need to identify a solution in a timely matter. The vacant hole on the roster can be filled with development The actual plan

I see both as well. The fact it’s so close in my perception and it’s difficult to honestly say who ends up better is why it makes sense to me to select the player who makes it much less likely we need to swing a trade for balance. A trade under the domain of Terry Pegula

Was beginning to get cold feet on my stated intention to step away if Adams was retained upon missing 5 years straight and this really reminded me why I decided that in the first place

What are the ups he’s even speaking of? Does he get it’s a young team because he made it so? Does winning ever actually matter?

This event was a complete embarrassment

*WITH A YOUNG TEAM?!* You built it this way! Year 5! - - - This is the GM of a last place team that has averaged 75 points for 5 years without making the playoffs, on top of 9 straight years missed before that which on its own equals the NHL’s longest playoff drought besides our own: “Not that far away. I could help the roster.” Can’t write this crap

I’m not sure what deserves revolt if not this Development isn’t a straight line?? It wasn’t a development year. Odd talk from a guy saying playoffs were the mandate this year More than that, it’s completely insulting. They are making this too easy

How apropos

Change can be excruciatingly slow, but if you pull back the perspective far enough, you can see its progress. I don’t believe things haven’t changed at all. Too many I know anecdotally, even if that’s only two people, who watch much less than before. Some fans indeed are hitting breaking points and it’s reached a level I personally haven’t seen. More speak of apathy than before. I drew a line at 5 years of Adams and I’m interested to see how that unfolds

When the obstacle is the mere changing of a human mind it’s never an unthinkable pursuit. I mean 12 angry men is one of the best films ever. We won a hockey game against Vegas because of the united choice of several thousand booing Hertl - this actually happened. Of course getting Adams fired could lead to the team being fixed. If you randomly shuffle the deck it won’t likely come up ace but you have to be pretty unlucky to get the Joker Speaking nothing of accountability. And the message it may send. Adams should be accountable we have gone down the wrong road if we are willingly calling accountability pointless just because it may not get us what we feel is personally owed how sad that would be

Game changer gap between 2 and 3 Doesn’t matter where we finish, will need some luck to grab a top 2 spot just win the games you can and make a good pick if you can’t trade it. You are going to get someone “good”, and so are a whole bunch of other teams, too. A top 2 could represent a little bit of quicker gained ground if we are lucky, both to get the pick and after

Could make him shift his thinking on firing Adams

The two better players? No

Utter defeatist bs in this thread shout it from the roof tops. Don’t give in. Show your spirit. Don’t keel over and die because some will call you silly for trying. it’s not about convincing anyone and never has been. It’s about demonstrating that it’s not good enough. That in YOUR heart it’s not good enough. the battle is only truly lost when they’ve convinced you you can’t win it