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I usually park in the middle of the lot or the back of the lot and walk. My wife also complains, she doesn't mind the walk but says I waste too much time by not parking toward the front. On the occasion she drives and I'm the passenger and we go to a store, she looks for the spot closer to the front and we end up driving up and down aisle after aisle taking 2 to 3 times as much time (or more) as it would have been had we just parked in that first spot we saw near the back and walked in.

In this case its McDavid First...and after him a mix of players that can go anwhere from 2 to about 7.... Eichel, Rantenen, Marner, Aho, Connor, even Werenski. I think the rest depends on what your team needs and how their personality meshes with your team. Eichel still might be the best pick for someone else at #2, while for the Sabres one of the other guys might have worked.

All of that is true in my opinion. If management thinks a player is part of their 'core' going forward, look for someone with a 3+ year deal at 6% of the cap at the time of signing.

I don't think there is a team in the league that doesn't want a 'Tuch type' player. Sure, some teams will go out and try to build a roster with pure talent, but no one will turn away a guy because he has too good of an attitude. The thing is those guys are pretty rare, and its hard to get a team who has one to give them up. Which is why I think you hear Adams talking about things taking time, patience, etc. He is probably thinking it is going to be a LOT easier to draft and develop guys like that in your system than to try to get plug-and-play guys form other teams. You can have a developmental system that nurtures those characteristics at every stage, and you will have years to see if the guys you drafted are like that. The downside is it takes that much more time to get them to your roster.

Somewhat related to the weather.... The sites we use to check the weather. I use a couple, but for quick and easy access to a basic forecast and conditioins, I always used Weather.com. Simple easy to read current conditions, hour by hour, and 10 day forecast. The site (and app for that matter) have gotten AWFUL in the past couple of months. For years it had a few adds on the page but nothing too intrusive. Just in the past little while, the ads are still there, but pop ups all over the place. Want to check the daily or hour by hour, pop ups. Done with one and want to go to another? Full page pop up. AND they slow the site down on top of being annoying. Its not just the pop ups..but the 'pop ins'. You scroll down to see a certain forcast, get ready to click on it, and the second you click on it what you WANTED to click on now moves down the page or right off the page, replaced with adds where it used to be. Then there are pop ups that block the entire screen. There are video ads that pop into the corner of the screen not blocking anything but playing sound and video. And these are the ones that you standard 'pop up' blocker doesn't take care of, many of them are integrated right into the site. It is amazing the site and app had ads for year and years that I assume they made money off of, but someone decided to go crazy with extra adds that block the very thing you come to the site for, and it, for me, is almost become un-usable.

I have some hope because in the regular season and the playoffs, we have seen Rochester play games where they have been absolutely dominated and looked awful, only to turn around and to win convincingly the following game. It's what they have a tendency of doing. If that doesn't happen and they end up losing this series quickly, you can still look at the past month as a positive. Has the team played very well all the time in the last part of the season? No. But a big thing for these players is to feel the pressure of a playoff run. Not only did they go through the last couple weeks of the season dealing with that, but they have a couple of series under their belt. That's a positive overall. You want to win obviously, but sometimes the best way to learn to win is to lose, to understand how you lost and then to improve on it... Of course you want to have that mixed with some winning also.

So either very close to or at the veteran minimum for him. Very good deal for Toronto. I don't know what the advanced stats say, but it was obvious to me he isn't the same player he was even a year or two ago. BUT...limit his minutes to 17-18 per game, dont' play him on back-to-backs, and at least for this year you will probably get a player that is very very good in that role (especially penalty killing) for less than a replacement level player would cost. I think Toronto gets a 'role player' who can excel at that role at a bargain basement price, as long as they don't push for too much more out of him. The Leafs are pretty much set on the back end if they want to be without having to pay too much: Muzzin, Rielly, Brody, Giordano, and Holl signed (top 5), with Sandin and Lilijegren being the talented young guys who are restricted and likely to be resigned on affordable deals also. That is 7 right there.

I tend to agree. The team played better at the end of the year, so they will spend a BIT more with hopes that attendance will be up going into next season. If the teams improves even more and attendance/cash flow go back up, then they will spend a little more next year...and hopefully that cycle will continue.

The last couple years of it won't look good, but it probably wont' matter much. First, you are looking to get Rust through the Crosby end of deal, which this does. The contract after that, the Penguins will likely be in rebuild mode after Crosby's deal is done and you will have the cap room to 'overpay' an aging player like Rust. Finally, in 4 years from now, even a 'bad' $5 per year contract isn't all that bad with what the cap might be if it goes up by then.

I don't know names off the top of my head, but there are some guys that are just motivated more by money than they are by cups. I know it has been years since I heard this, but I remember a couple of players (now former players, maybe Peters??? but not sure) who would mention that guys from North America are more motivated by the cup....but they guys from Europe aren't as motivated by the cup because they didn't grow up following it as much..that SOME of the Europeans care more about Money and the Olympics than they do about chasing a cup. Find a guy like that who is a $3-$4 million dollar goalie...overplay him by $1 million per year, and there you go (wish it was that easy)

Anyone mention a timetable of when he might be available to play?

Reading some articles about the leafs and looking at the comments, as well as listening to a lot of 590 on the radio out of toronto when out on the road for work...it won't be a problem according to leafs fans, they have it all figured out: According to many leafs fans: -Spezza and Giordano will sign for league veteran minimum, they are at the end of their careers and only want to play in Toronto. -Trade Nylander to the highest bidder, Get a young, 1st paring D-man for him that cost well under $3 per year. You know, because all the other teams know how good Nylander is. His spot can be pretty much filled by Knies or Robertson. Another idea posted that has a lot of people agreeing with it is simply to Trade Nylander to Jersey for the 2nd overall pick this year plus something else from Jersey, and then use the money savings to get one of the top D-men out there. -Campbell will give in and sign for $3million per year with the leafs. He can't turn down the opportunity to stay with this team and if/when the leafs win the cup, he will become a hockey legend for doing it in Toronto. -Offer to retain a little bit of money on Tavares contract and move him. Get a haul back for him, including a stud d-man and still save money on the contract. With that savings you can resign most of your free agents (because they are all going to take a home-town discount to stay in Toronto) and maybe even add to the roster. So yes, there are some skeptics in Toronto, but most of what I have read and heard from the Leafs fans is how easy a few moves will be where they can both dump salary AND get better at the same time, and then take that extra cap room they have to sign young stud players to make them even better along with retaining Campbell. Easy.

For those wanting the Eichel talk to go away because he isn't here anymore, its just not going to happen. Is this thread about him? not directly, but when you talk about a coach fired on the team he just joined, of course he will be brought up. Bigger picture, he is going to be talked about for years on this forum, get used to it, and the topic about him IS relevant. He was traded, how he does with his new team and how the players the Sabres got for him peform....that is what fans like to talk about in terms of 'who won the trade'. With just about every major trade that happens, the players get discussed. It has been many years and we are still discussing ROR and who 'won' that trade...and I'm fine with it, that is what message boards are for. Eichel...how he does with Vegas and how Vegas does with him on that team....and Tuch and Krebs.....they will continue to get discussed and honestly that is what message boards are for. Fanbases all across the league and across sports like to talk about trades...the players involved in trades...even well after those players are gone, again, because it is about 'who won the trade' and every move that happens, every coach changed, every winning and losing streak involved will give more to be talked about. Eichel discussion is not going away and I want to continue to read and talk about it because it is part of who this team is, who it was, and the return for him will be part of this team going forward.

I'm really surprised Florida is down 2 games at home. Obviously to many they were the class of the league this year along with Colorado...maybe at their 'peak' not being quite as good as the Avs, but more consistent than them. Tampa just didn't look as good as they have in the past. Same team, but some key guys being a year older now, and Vasilevskiy not looking anywhere close to what he was the last couple years. A very good but slightly older Tampa team with a goalie who all year was very-good-gut-not-great....vs a team that took them to the distance last year in the playoffs who is a bit younger and had a much better year......and even with that Tampa 'experience'....after a LONG 7 game series vs Toronto I expected Tampa in 5 or 6 in this series. Very surprised so far.

I have noticed every so often in this thread it has the feeling fading away, or at least for a few posts Eichel isn't a topic. But then someone brings up his name and it starts again. It doesn't matter how his name gets broad up, but when it is, people run with it. Every single post with his name in it adds to its continuity. Your post...bringing up how it is still an 'Eichel thread', is partially contributing to that continuing. (as does me typing this, and the threads previous to this, etc)

I think that is something that matters in SOME cases. A few years ago I remember a discussion where a few players from in and around Toronto (maybe Skinner was one?) would say they would like to play near their family, where the family could drive to games easily, but simply did not want the pressure/lifestyle of playing for the Maple leafs. For others, playing for the Leafs is a dream, it depends on who it is. From the late 1990's for almost a decade I lived in Boston and that was an issue that came up with the Red Sox at times. The fanbase for the Redsox (like the Leafs) was SO intense that there were some players that just wanted no part of it. Could not walk down the street, could not go grocery shopping without being talked to (and yelled at after a loss) and it wasn't just the players, it was often the players wife that would have to deal with that.

No he isn't not to this fan base or this forum. You traded him and got something back for him. How well you did in that trade, did you 'win' that trade is always going to be a discussion and is not old news. There are active threads on this forum right now discussing Tage vs O'Rielly and who won or lost that trade. You don't even need a definitive answer, just the conversation, that is what message boards are about. How well Jack does, or doesn't do, in comparison to what the Sabres got back for him, is going to be a part of the discussion for years on this forum, and no reason why it should not be. As long as he is still playing and what the Sabres got back for him are still playing its not old news.

I don't personally think winning the trade is you vs the other team you traded with. I think it is what you would be with the trade vs if you didn't do the trade. In that way, the Sabres sure might end up winning this (for vs against).

Some good matchups I guess, but not as exciting as I wanted it to be. I'm not a fan of the Bruins or Caps, but I think the playoffs are better when the Bruins or Ovechkin gets past the first round. I wanted the Leafts to lose, but Tampa doesn't interest me at all anymore. Same with the Blues, they are a very good team obviously, but something about them makes me not have any interest in watching their games. Oilers Flames should be the best series, hope it lives up to the hype.

No problem with that, but you must not read well (at least not my post). I was responding to the request to move on because he isn't here anymore. Doesn't matter if he isn't here. As you said, we all can talk about whoever we went without others telling us we shouldn't by moving on.

Well that is just the thing...While we are far from perfect here, many fans think things have started to look up and turned around right after he was gone. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. Therefore, for those fans, no other bogeyman is needed to pursue. One isn't needed right now as things seem to have turned the corner for many of us....the only Bogeyman that can exist is when we look back 6+ months or more...and Jack fits the bill really well for that role. This is a forum about the Sabres....there are no rules saying we can or should only talk about the current Sabres. We talk about good and bad here. We talk about current players and former players (Hasek, Perreault, Briere, Drury, and Yes, Eichel). There is a good portion of posters here who are going to want to talk about Eichel, no wishing that away will change it.

I'm wondering at this point if Vegas considers Eichel their 'franchise' player, so much so that he will be 'consulted' or at least 'kept in the loop' regarding any coaching changes? Or if they are going to basically do what they do and have him deal with it.

I'll agree with you, the camera angles make it hard to say for sure 100%. If it was forced to make a decision I'd say 'no goal', but without that good camera angle it is so close that I'd just go with the call made on the ice.

I don't 'want' them to be good, but they are an interesting case to think about. As a hockey fan, taking a look at any team and thinking what you would do to make them better based on their current situation is a fun exercise. I'm not hoping that they actual management of the team figures it out, but as a fan his is the stuff that is fun to think about.

I still think there is a strong chance he goes to AZ.... My info may be outdated, but I do remember last summer or the summer before hearing how he spent all of it in Arizona...absolutely loves being there, has a lot of friends there that he spends a lot of time with. Again, this was from last year or the year before but when I heard that (I THINK it was a discussion on 590 out of Toronto), I thought to myself he has to be signing there when his deal in Toronto is done. They have a couple years until his deal is up to get better, but between them losing a couple high draft picks and the Awful picks the Coyotes have made, who knows how long it will take them to get viable young talent on that team. Coyotes have been an awful drafting team. The last time they drafted a player who would have a season of at least 30 goals in the NHL with ANY team...to my knowledge was the 2nd player they ever drafted back in 1996...Danielle Briere. (Unless I'm missing someone but I don't think so)