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This Spring I upgraded to a Nucanoe Pursuit. Really enjoying this one. I’ve been doing a fair amount of trolling with it. Its sleek enough that paddling to maintain a 2mph pace for several hours is relatively effortless unless a good breeze kicks up.

Yes. Without a number of good, character vets on the roster who know what it takes to win in the NHL I expect we’ll be going through the same thing again in another 7 years after we’ve deemed this core as failed.

I fish out of a kayak almost every weekend.

Listening to Rochester radio on the drive home after work. The radio host announcing the passing pronounced his last name as the first name Robert would be pronounced. I was yelling at my radio. Someone really should have clued him in before he read that. He got the Rene pronunciation right at least.

Tager too?

Until the right variant evolves...

Fishing and drinking tequila on the porch. Should be a good day.

I need to find a “ beating a dead giraffe” gif.

I hate this line of thought. We weren’t successful once at X with Y calling the shots so we won’t be successful this time with Z calling the shots. Lots of teams have done this and came out of it OK.

I think it is also fair to say that KA has come to the conclusion that Jack doesn’t give the team its best chance to win GIVEN THE DIRECTION KA PLANS FOR THE TEAM. Not in terms of talent, but in terms of culture.

Stevens was a cheapshot as well.

I agree with Darth. Peca would be Kadri or Perry today. He was a cheapshot even then. But he was our cheapshot and I want another like him.

See, I genuinely believe that we can be better without Jack. It will require a few holes get filled, and it will require a competent 1C by committee. And it will require a couple key kids deliver. Thats a few ifs, but Jack being Jack, due to desire to be here or health, is a pretty big if too. And I believe a healthier team culture can be a strong factor. I definitely lean in the direction of Jack not positively affecting that.

Then rebuild, not burn the ***** down.

Ugh. I need to see a veteran top 6 C in the return. ideally I want the return for Jack to fill a couple of key holes. Then again, I have an irrational hatred for lottery ticket trades after 10 years of them.

It’s 3:20 and I’m 2 whiskeys in. I’ll go with that excuse.

I don't have any particularly strong emotions about Jack either way. I don’t find him a particularly likable player, but don’t dislike him either. I suspect he’s not a team guy, but he’s gifted enough that it is overcomeable (is that a word) with good leadership and enough talent. I don’t need to see him go, but I’m not at all convinced it’s automatically a bad thing if he does. I probably trust KAs judgement regarding whether he fits the mold for the team going forward more than any other GM Jack has had.

Seriously? Was he that bad a neighbor?

And I can’t keep everyone straight lol

I think it is an error to boil it down to these two choices. It wasn’t difficulty building around Eichel, and it likely wouldn’t have mattered much who the GMs were. You guys that still support the tank don’t appear (to me anyway) to see that the real issue was that the extent to which the team was torn down to guarantee a tank fruit made it damned near impossible to have an effective rebuild that wouldn’t take 7yrs. As mentioned up thread, the entire organization was a bottom feeder. The entire house had to be built from a hole in the ground. And that was unprecedented.

Yeah. That was the concern. Let me know when you want to have an actual discussion and maybe I'll participate further.

You haven't been here long enough to know who was raising concerns 5 years ago. Many of the voices now that are expressing conccerns were expressing concerns 5 years ago. And I was an ROR backer. So it's not same song, same artist, new lyrics here. You've been here long enough to have a feeling about that.

And I think character is probably not the quite right word. I'm not sure culture is quite the right word here, but I think it is closer to being correct. I've never felt like Jack was a team guy. From the beginnings with his reported disrespect for Gionta, Ive felt like Jack is a Jack guy. Even Sam defers to Jack. I think right from the get go it had to be about Jack. And I think that is what KA wants to change. Obviously, I don't have alot to back this up with, but thats how I read the tea leaves. If this is accurate (and I have nothing other than gut feel to go on) then I think the team does have to move on from him to really get to where they want to go. Or Jack has to change.

That is the literal reading of it.