7+6=13

We agree that he's failed. I think PA mentioned he can't believe there's anyone left defending Pegula. I'm not. I'm merely pointing out the repetition is nauseating and really makes SS less than. In addition a significant amount of the complaints about Pegula are at minimum unsubstantiated then untrue. Are pointing these things out nauseating to you and others? Yes. So don't you get it - we're aggravating each other? It has almost nothing to do with Pegula. Id like to try and enjoy the start of the season and have some optimism. That angers you and many others. Almost every positive post is met with anger, thumbs down, insults, eye rolls and it's the same exact posters. You all have hijacked this site and made it miserable to read, let alone post. Well I have just as much of a right to post back and share my thoughts too. Can we not try to talk about other things? I try to but then I start getting frustrated again with the naysayers constant negativity. What Liger told Promo because he was being positive is actually quite crazy.

I'm disputing that you can drive the owner to doing anything. I think Jack wanted out but he did sign a long term extension. Sam and Ullmark, I'm not sure it's a fact they wanted out. Montour, haha, oh no not Montour.

Really smart take.

Terry has a housekeeper. He also owns you. I'm laughing at you.

And you're boring, thinking it's your first time mentioning the drought. Hey guys I'm super smart, I comment most days, for years, about a team I hate and that makes you dumb, haha.

How does an owner trying to be the POHO, GM, meddling in on everything, not care about winning?

But then we don't like it when we do because it's too early, etc.. IMO, we do a good job of keeping our own. Problem is our fans complain about our own, them love them the second they leave. A lot of us will say anything to dog the team.

It would make sense Pegula would rather win. Buffalo has never attracted high end players in free agency and we're on many no trade clause lists. When re-builds are decided on, it's like turning around a cruise ship. He's tried a lot of different things and nothing has worked. I'm glad the Sabres are worth a lot of money, in part it's a compliment to the fans. I hope we make the playoffs and think the roster is good enough to do it.

Just because we didn't blow the core of the team up, doesn't mean they're standard fringe changes. Do heads really need to roll for Tage, Dahlin, Tuck, Benson, Norris, Byram, Benson, etc? We're getting rid of players that lacked effort on both ends and it's been happening over the last two off seasons. That doesn't mean it will work, but it's not ho hum, they didn't do anything.

It's not fake Math. It doesn't matter what lines the new players are on or if the coaches are the same, Pegula still owns the team and the equipment manager is the same. When there's 19 starters and 6 or 7 new players, it's not the same lineup. There can be up to 2-3 changes to the top two Forward lines, one in the 3rd and yes a couple on the 4th. Obviously 3 changes on defense and not even counting goaltender to start the season and backup. This isn't a running it back roster.

Definitely not what you want to see, even if you put it into perspective.

I just don't think these things are determined in pre-season games. I agree that some data is used from the games. I believe pre-season matters, just not a lot. It's more relative IMO. They know what the lines will be to start the season, minus a minor tweak or two or injury. The lines get established and often change for various reasons, for even the excellent teams. The system is also established in practice, film room and throughout the season. Hard work mindset, well that's a tough one and I can't imagine pre-season games are a large factor.

31-37% of our starting roster has changed.

Any sport?

Absolutely ridiculous. I honestly wish Ruff would go bananas. Someone show being upset.

This just isn't true. He wasn't clearing people out and engaging physically in college either. It's exactly how he graded and was identified as his weaknesses. He's bigger than most NHL forwards and he still has to get better defensively with positioning and using his reach, he doesn't have to get physical with a 5'10, 185 player. No, he's not clearing out a strong NHL player with size that's willing to go in front of the net. He may never be even average at that. Who cares? You're incorrectly hoping for that because he's big and you dislike almost everything about the Sabres. It's absurd to be this upset about a 22 year old player that isn't a flop.

Kaprizov just busted it open. Marner 12 - he gets 17. Yikes. Tuch is going to be expensive, IMO.

If you think we're a goalie away from being a playoff team, you do believe we're better than the Eichel years.

I think we're a better overall team now and you do too. I think we had them and weren't a playoff team. We used their talent, in part to aquire different talent, but I wouldn't want to go back to that time.

I agree. That's not what I responded to.

My guess is, we'd be where we were when we had them.

Happy to hear this.

Not caring where you play is a learned thought process, as hockey prospects begin an early non traditional life. He'd train in Vancouver if he played for any other organization. I'd have to research but I'm guessing players don't train in the city they play at least partially until other things manifest. I.E. married with kids living in the city they play / longer term contract.

If Tage is already close to asking out, then Tuch isn't the linchpin. I'm not trying to say I don't understand what you're saying. However if we sign Tuch and still lose Tage as you suggest as being already half way there. To me that would mean that's an entirely different discussion than lumping Tuch into that. A lot would have to happen and be true for what you suggested. I used Benson as a parallel argument. If this, then ... can be speculated.

Dexter continues to be excellent. The series - "From" - hearing the next season is coming, so good time to watch the first ones.