K-9
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Everybody I've talked to that sees Foligno on a regular basis as well as those who post here on a regular basis, have noted the consistent physical play that he brings to the rink each and every game. Indeed, they've often lamented how much they wish Kassian would do the same when they were together in Rochester. I don't think that's conjecture. I've seen every one of his "35-game debut with Lindy's girls" and I have yet to see Kassian bring his physical presence on a consistent basis. That is not conjecture, either. I don't confuse being a great fighter that doesn't back down when challenged to drop the gloves with being a physically tough player to to play against. Kassian isn't there yet. GO SABRES!!!
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I agree. And it's good to see another poster who understands the difference between being a great fighter who doesn't back down and the type of physical toughness that big, physical players have to have. Again, I use the Foligno example of someone who brings his size and toughness every night. Both big rookies, both pretty much the same age, with comparable pro experience and one brings it every night and the other one doesn't. Like Rayzor said on WGR, it's either inside you or not and he was also questioning whether Kassian possesses that kind of internal desire to bring his size to the rink every game. I hope he does eventually. GO SABRES!!!
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How else should we have intepreted, "Lucic just breathed a sigh of relief, too?" Quit the attitude? WTF are you talking about? GO SABRES!!!
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That's laughable. Yeah, I'm sure Lucic lost sleep thinking about the prospects of playing against the mighty Kassian. Even if Kassian kicked his ass from one end of the rink to another (and I'd love to see that), it wouldn't make any difference in my opinion of Kassian's lack of overall physical play to date. GO SABRES!!!
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True, he got recognized for being a good fighter and one who won't back down. And that's a plus to be sure. But he had no problem doing that in the pros, either. The style he needs to develop is one of toughness at all times on the ice. He's good at using his body to keep the puck but not very good at winning puck battles to gain possession as of yet. He doesn't finish checks with any kind of regularity and is seldom one to initiate contact from what I've seen. He's got good hands and is a pretty good passer but is a liability in his own end much of the time. He's got great size but doesn't seem willing to bring it every night. Foligno on the other hand, does. Why would Lindy try to coach it out of one player and not the other? True, Kassian's past problems with suspensions and the law in Ontario for a bar fight may make him a marked man in some respects but I doubt anyone has ever told him to tone it down. Just be smart about it. Other than a few big hits in juniors and a couple of fights, his legend is mostly one of myth if you ask me. I just haven't seen this awesome physical presence on the ice on a conistent basis. Indeed, with his size, he is often conspicous in his absence. GO SABRES!!!
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What style is that, exactly? I'll give him another Gordy Howe hat-trick against the Sabres but I'm gonna chalk up a hat-trick for Hodgson against his former squad as well. GO SABRES!!!
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I'm sure the Canucks are hoping Foligno left more of an impression on Kassian. Foligno seems to be having no problem playing the kind of physical game that we all wanted to see from Kassian on a regular basis. That said, buck says Kassian racks up a Gordy Howe hat-trick in his first game with the Canucks. Trades have a way of adding jam to a player's game for that first game or two. GO SABRES!!!
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Thanks for the report. I'm liking Foligno's trajectory. He'll have more room on the big squad now that Kassian is gone. GO SABRES!!!
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I've also been appreciating the posts from Inkman and others that have been following Kassian in Rochester. He wasn't playing up to his size and toughness down there as well. I'm glad that he won't back down in a fight. That's a plus. But mucking it up in the corners, winning puck battles and routinely finishing checks is a far better indicator of toughness. His reputation was built largely on a couple of incidents in juniors. I wish the kid well but he's no where near as developed at Hodgson and doesn't fill as critical a position for our team. GO SABRES!!!
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If you're talking in terms of physical ability then he's even better than I thought. But since you're not, I'd like to know HTF you have ANY friggin' idea as to what kind of heart this kid has? Please bless us all with your 2008 NHL draft scouting reports. If the kid proves he's as heartless as Roy and Stafford then by all means please come back and bask in your 'I told you so, 20/20 hindsight' genius. Has to be a new record for finding the cloud in the silver lining. Did Darcy or Lindy run over your dog? Several times? GO SABRES!!!
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Finding Ray's comments about Kassian interesting. Said Kassian is talented and it's nice to have size but if you're not going to bring it every night, what's the point? Said it's not something that's learned. It's inate. I agree. GO SABRES!!!
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I thought their comments were grounded in how the Canucks couldn't answer the toughness bell against the Bruins in the SC finals. They focused an awful lot on that aspect of what Kassian brings them. I still say that Hodgson fills a bigger need for us than Kassian does for them both immediately and in the future. GO SABRES!!!
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Excellent point and you're absolutely right. He's just a rookie getting minimal minutes in Vancouver and I would be surprised if he played top line minutes for any length of time although stranger things have happened. It would be great to have him and Vanek gel right away but I'm willing to give the kid some time. GO SABRES!!!
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Rookie of the Month in January. Something to build on. GO SABRES!!!
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I like the trade. Hodgson gives us a more promising rookie at a greater position of need. I believe he was Rookie of the Month this year? Anyway he wasn't gonna get the ice time in Vancouver that he'll get in Buffalo. And it's probably a good deal for Vancouver, too. GO SABRES!!!
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I suspect there is a lot of validity to your post. All three of them also suffered multiple concussions. Not only does it take less force to cause one after the first one, but the effects are or can be that much worse and the recovery time (absence of symptoms) takes longer. Add the fact that these guys are highly motivated professional athletes that have other highly motivated professional athletes seeking to take their jobs and you have a recipe for rushing back. I'm glad the NHL will not allow a player to come back unless that full battery of tests is passed. GO SABRES!!!
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I think you make a great point here. The cumulative toll of multiple concussions is just now beginning to be understood. Knowing that it will take less force to cause one the next time and that the risks for sustaining additional concussions is exponential after suffering the first one, would be reason enough for me to hang 'em up. I don't mean to overstate it, but these injuries can literally be life-altering. I hope Hecht and others like him get out before any more damage is done. GO SABRES!!!
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I think you nailed it here. The "Lucic Incident" goes so much farther than that game or even this season. I suspect it confirmed some long-held beliefs they had about each other but never discussed. I also think the OP makes a good point about how Miller and Enroth feel about it as well. GO SABRES!!!
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This had me laughing out loud. Personally, I think all they need is a collective warm bubble bath while sipping their favorite cup of Irish mocha mint and then curling up with their favorite Harlequin romance novel. GO SABRES!!!
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Parroty. GO SABRES!!!
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Hey chz, are you trying to change the mojo again? IIRC that's why you reverted to your original pic a couple weeks ago. I'm just not sure the Connelly mojo will bring it. At least it hasn't yet from these other nuk-nuks. Regardless, you are of great help around here. Especially at trade/FA times. Keep the info coming, please. GO SABRES!!!
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Undermining George Edwards the entire time. Instructing his ILBs to sabotage certain plays. Just biding his time. That Stache is a crafty one. GO BILLS!!!
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^This. It may sound simplistic, but motivation is a personal choice. It's just not a coach's job to constantly have to motivate his players. That's not to say that coaches don't lose teams due to being tuned out, etc. That happens and maybe it's happening with Lindy. But a player's motivation MUST come from within or it won't come at all. I think Prince Nonchalant simply doesn't care enough about being a hockey player. Let alone a good one. Oh, he may well bust a nut or two for a while for a new coach but players like him will usually revert to form. It's a shame, too. Clearly talented, clearly capable. Clearly just doesn't give a crap. GO SABRES!!!
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Actually, the question is who the Bills consider a franchise QB. To be honest, I haven't seen enough of any of the top names to make an informed decision. From what little I have seen, RG3 seems to float Gailey's boat the most. Anyway, I just wanted to make it clear that Fitz's contract in no way hamstrings the Bills from looking for another QB. GO BILLS!!!
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I doubt they'd be able to get into a position to draft a franchise QB but there is nothing to preclude them from drafting a QB if they were. GO BILLS!!!
