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http://youtu.be/J96uZ-06ock Even after the drop it's averaging 35% a year since 2009.

Interestingly enough, the average salary cap payroll of the league is $60,037,820. Bettman wants the cap going forward to start at $59.9 million (you can go over in 2012-13). Basically this means the NHL will not be spending anymore money on players, overall, as it already has planned. The league is offering (how nice of them) to pay the difference between the 57% and the 50% to players under contract so that existing contracts are not reduced and players are paid their contracts full value. Now you ask, where do these dollars come from? Certainly the owners would be paying this difference seeing as they were the one's that signed the contracts right? Nope. At the end of the year HRR would be figured out and an amount equal to this "difference" (what the owners said they would pay and what they actually paid) would be taken from the players share of HRR. Estimated to be about $211 million over the first two years. The league is saying that after year two the players share DOLLARS will have caught up to what they were paid last year and no player paid "make whole" money would be needed.

Leipold during meeting "I don't want to honor Parise and Suter contracts". Then why the ###### did u sign them?

The players want their existing contracts to be honored. The owners don't want to honor them. The players are willing to go 50/50 from the get go if they honor them. Seems pretty simple to me. Set the players 'new' cap number at whatever it was as a percentage of the old cap. Owners pay what they originally signed up to pay the player. Maybe concession on contracts that are already signed for 13-14 are voided (like Lucic).

The NHLPA has four proposals to show the NHL owners today. All of them slowly bring it down to a 50-50 split.

He means the 16 playoff games you need to win in order to win the Stanley Cup.

Census among fans For: Players 32% Owners 29% Just shut up and play 39%

Generally the more people involved the less that gets done. I'm assuming that they have their counter all made up already and will have a Gatorade and come out of the room with all the guys for some PR. Owners Jacobs, Leipold, Edwards and Leonsis will be with Bettman. I say they drop the buckets and go. Last man standing gets 51%

I know right?

The following players are in Toronto today: Craig Adams Brad Boyes Chris Campoli David Clarkson Dan Cleary Carlo Colaiacovo Sidney Crosby Mathieu Darche Shane Doan Shawn Horcoff Jarome Iginla Robyn Regehr Eric Staal Matt Stajan Shawn Thornton Jonathan Toews Kevin Westgarth Dan Winnik

Or maybe it will force Lindy to play Enroth a full 30 games.

And leaving your tampons laying around the house. :ph34r:

You should have plenty of those available and froze-up for the zombie apocalypse!

It been thrown around that the "extended" season would have the last day of the Cup Final @ end of June. They would have free agency on July 10 instead of the first.

Can't be that. I do sleepwalk once in a while. Maybe I ran into something? It just hurts all the time. Not really super painful but like someone attached one of those binder clips to my side and left it there.

Many talking about the schedule now. You wonder how 82 games all crammed together will affect the player and if the games will be snooze fests given they're so tired. On top of that maybe playing into late June. I'd rather see them play 70 games or so. Yeah there would be an asterisk on the goals, etc, stats but that's to be expected during a lockout. Now, realizing that the owners want full pay and the players want full pay they'll probably cram all the games in there. There's goes getting my 4% for cancelled games.

So, I've had a pain in my side for about 2 weeks now. I thought it would go away but it didn't. So I went to the doctor this morning and went for some tests. Turns out I have hairline crack in my rib. WTF? How did that happen?

I'd put all my money on Google. There was a time when people thought Japan was taking over the world too.

All you need to do is take a 12% pay cut now. So $4,000,000 player minus 12% equals $3,520,000 $3,520,000 + 23.6% equals $4,350,000 in six years equals 8.75% raise over the next six years or 1.46% per year

If they take the new CBA the players will be NOT getting 1.65 BILLION dollars over the next 6 years. And take a 12.3% paycut. Oh wait it's not a paycut or rollback it's a "Make Whole". Luntz Global spin.

Let's keep this to PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS please.

Remind me to never use you guys as my union rep. Major concessions my ass.

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Even more info here: Caution. Head may implode. http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/fireice/comments/nhl_releases_full_text_and_explanation_of_latest_cba_proposal/

van Riemsdyk too. If I'm reading this correctly: So, players will be paying players for reduction in their contract value by reducing the players share in that year. "Hello Mr Player. We're sorry we paid you too much so what we'll do here is reduce the amount of money the NHLPA gets to pay you." And NO, we're not calling it a rollback. We're calling it making you whole. Now bend over.