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It is what it is. Management does not seen to care about winning. Now I just watch to watch as that's what I do. They win they lose I don't care, I just watch.

Drop back into the teens for Martin and pick up a player that helps now for the drop. Martin gives me Peca vibes

Is Karmanos different than Adams? Will he be allowed to show that? It's the open question in regards to this supposed change, and only time will tell. One would hope he's not taking the job just for the money and the security, knowing full well it's just a facade an he's still just the associate GM, but there's every chance he might be. The ironic thing is that Karmanos is far more qualified to be a GM than Adams ever was. He's been a senior hockey exec (mostly as an assistant GM) for 26 yearsand is only 50 years old. Stanley Cups with Carolina and Pittsburgh. You see that as resiliency? I just see it as a reading into what's been done and said over the past year-ish. I mean I didn't say they would make good moves, only that they would make moves. 😁

Not even close 😭

We have to take it because we know that they know that we know it’s demotion by promotion we can’t get a better admittance than that from this buffoon I’ll take those scraps

Actually I removed the thumbs down. I don’t need to give you one because I am jealous of your resiliency that would be wrong and spiteful Young fool. only now, at the end, do you understand

IMHO - what is hard to assume is Karmanos having any true authority to make decisions. Let’s pretend that he prefers a heavy and more physical hockey team, especially on defense. Will TP and POHO Howdy Doody actually allow him to execute a trade that moves Byram or Power in exchange for a grizzly defender? I strongly have my doubts, hence none of any possible change will amount to a hill of beans. It’s all a big nothing burger.

That would be culture changing!

I’m not afraid to say this team gets 10 more points playing exactly the same way with good (not great, good) goaltending. It’s the problem from the season that just past that hasn’t got enough attention.

Oh me too. Some risk in that one from Buffalo's perspective, but so much reward. I have no idea if the Bruin/Swayman relationship is beyond repair, but it certainly is in rough shape.

Would hope both would. Expecting Swayman will bounce back.

UPL was the NHL’s 5th worst goalie in terms of goals above expected this year. Jeremy Swayman was the 2nd worst. Swayman certainly has a far more onerous contract, and almost certainly has far more talent. Would either team make that trade?

Hellebuyck has allowed four or more goals in 7 straight road games.

Boston wins it this year. Pitt wins it next year. And the major markets are back on track.

Yep. I can buy the idea of Adams getting a golden handshake for his loyalty and that the “promotion” is actually a demotion. I can even entertain hope that Karmanos may actually be capable and able to implement changes rather quickly because there will be no learning curve. Assuming he will actually have the authority to do so. But I can’t do anything but laugh at any talk of accountability from Terry and Kevyn.

I still have a huge problem with "promoting" Adams even if it's only symbolic. He has failed as a GM, so he gets to move up? This organization was humping "accountability" all last summer and this season. They do this and that was pure intellectual dishonesty.

It’s possible but they shouldn’t take more than a week. First step is determining what Adams’ new role actually is and how he fits in the hierarchy. One would think that would largely be dictated by Terry. If there are big issues, Adams simply gets fired. So if they met Sunday, that should have been hammered out by Tuesday. The next step is offering the job the Karmanos. This one’s a little trickier. Is Kevyn offering him the job, or is Terry? What does Pegula want from Jason? What does Jason want from Terry? Who is Jason’s direct boss? What is he in control of? What changes does he want to make? What changes is he allowed to make? Will the family move to Buffalo? What’s a fair contract? Given the past and the continued presence of Kevyn, there will be a few sticky points. So another 3 days there? Get the lawyers to draw up the documents, sign and announce Monday morning?

I don't believe any of this. Until proven otherwise, they're content with the status quo. A lot ppl still have Ruff colored glasses even though Granato had the same team get more points.

The idea that the changes made in this most important of off-seasons, will be driven by the biases of a 65 year old head coach who has had two winning seasons in his last 11 and whose teams consistently finish near the bottom of the league in goals against and who has one year left on his contract, is kinda nauseating. It would be completely on brand for the Sabres though.

I was rigged. With the 9th pick in the draft, the Buffalo Sabres select......

Perhaps a potential holdup, if there is going to be the change mostly speculated, is working out contracts with Adams and Karmanos. I mean, this wouldn’t be quite as simple as Pegula promoting Adams and Adams promoting Karmanos. Both Adams and Karmanos would need contracts (presumably, at least the minimum standard of 3 years I would think). Perhaps the decision has been made and it is the details that are still being ironed out.

Regardless of what happens off the ice, I am still expecting some more change on the ice. Too much smoke about Lindy discovering what his guys really are for that to just be Cozens and Jokiharju. If this braintrust is back they will be moving out more parts he didn’t like. I strongly doubt Samuelsson is back and I think there’s a good chance Quinn follows him. I buy the smoke about UPL. Reimer is a UFA and I wouldn’t be surprised if they come back with a better veteran, pair him with Levi, and see where that goes. Lindy certainly didn’t treat Clifton and Lafferty like his guys. I think the contract situations mean one of Tuch, Byram and Peterka is gone as well. I think Byram is the one the Sabres would choose to move, but what the player brings to negotiating table in terms of contract demands will pay a big role. We aren’t paying enough attention to the bomb Tuch might be ready to drop. Most of the above is about housecleaning, but there’s also the possibility that they may actually go shopping for what they think they are missing, and that puts everyone except Ras and Tage on the table. The Cozens and Savoie trades I think are templates we could see more of if Adams is still in charge, and I think that if he returns he will be under pressure (or even under orders) to make moves. I also think there are as many business reasons for a significant trade as there are hockey reasons, so there’s that too.

I believe changes are coming to the thread title, one way or t'other. I miss Rick.

No data. Expecting it'd be the normal 2-2-1. According to the Rocket, they went 2-3 this round to cut down on travel (well, duh). Only going to Ra-cha-cha shaves 4 hours off the trip from Laval to Cleveland.