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As good as a job he is doing with the Bills now is as bad as he is doing with the Sabres.

20 games. If it’s a disaster, we have to pull the plug. Get DeBoar in here.

The problem is Karmanos is part of this mess. If it is just promoting him than all the other 💩 stays onboard and the Ruff to Appert succession plan stays in tact

So here is where I am at... he has decided on Jarmo who clearly was not influential in a positive way this off-season who knows if he had any input... I think TP will be forced to do something... the player exodus will start with stars Dahlin Thompson etc wanting trades... Adams will get fleeced, Sabres will miss the playoffs, Adams will get promoted to POHO because Terry needs his a$$ sniffing sycophant, Jarmo will get moved to GM. Ruff will get fired and the worst PP coach in the history of the league appert will get made head coach. We will be devoid of any real talent, stuck with massive contracts like Norris, Power, Greenway, Muel etc who probably won't even make a half a season without being hurt agaaaain... literally no free agents will even consider entering New York state let alone come here. And if you thought this dysfunction bush league incompetent abyss was bad... you ain't seen nothing yet

If you get 4 minutes a game, you'd better be getting 8 hits and drawing instigators left and right. Keep your elbows down, stay on your skates, and run people. Get the home crowd excited and your teammates engaged. Whatever it is Geertsen does, he doesn't do that. Kiefer Sherwood had 462 hits last season (which is silly!), but he already has 11 this season. Geertsen has 3. Go be a cult icon. It'd be so easy to be beloved by the Sabre.... hood? Sabrehospicecenter?

Granato was an assistant under Krueger. Granato's role as an assistant was to help Krueger install his system and vision for how the team would play. You can’t be more opposite than Granato from Krueger when it comes to a philosophy on how to play hockey. I have no idea if Jason Karmanos would be a good GM. But I also have no reason to think he would simply continue on with the same plan/ideas/vision as Adams. I would prefer Rob Blake, of the experienced people available, but I would take Karmanos over Adams in a second.

When Sabrespacers fight amongst themselves, Sheevyn wins, cackling, "Good... gooooood."

If Tuch gets into self-preservation mode: drop in blocked shots, not going to scrums, peeling off checks, etc., then you might as well listen to trade offers now, because he won't be helping relative to the minutes he'll be on the ice. There's a ton more value if you can get move to a team willing to extend him and give him 9/10 of an entire season at a bargain price (once their coach finds new ways to re-motivate him), vs. holding him until the trade deadline. But before listening to offers -- axe Adams and give Jarmo the control of the team. (Because if Tuch doesn't extend pre-trade, and you want to get him back in the fold as a UFA, he's not rejoining a team led by Adams.) And once you've done that, then you might as well go into complete tank 2.0 to get those top-flight centers again. Dahlin and TNT would fetch the value of at least 7 firsts.

But they are already ahead in their rebuild

Enough about the Sabres. The other team that played last night is pretty bad, as well.

Really depends on what he gets traded for. Keeping him solely because he's older though is dumb, you're trying to solve a problem while ignoring another one.

I don’t love the term of 7-8, but the dollar values are all skewed from years of a flat cap. The 2024 cap was $88MM. 2026 cap will be around 107MM. 2027 cap even higher. So a contract for Tuch in 2024 dollars of 8MM is right about 10MM in 2026 dollars. It is essentially the same percentage of the cap. For me, it comes down to his trade deadline value. He will be the most coveted pending UFA given his style of play and current AAV (not to mention the first crack at signing him to an extension). You may be better off spending 10MM on what you could acquire with him than on him. Just know that he is one of the boys and leadership will need to be acquired to make this contract extension make sense.

Awesome. And we remain the youngest or second youngest team in the league. And the beat goes on.

Forton, nightingale, devine etc

If he blew it all up today (fire Adams and all the coaches) I would back him. At least it would show me he cares. And there might be a hope to salvage the season, however small. Maybe I’m overreacting a bit after 2 games, but it just looks like if they do nothing and try to ride this out it could get even worse. Worst. Owner. Ever. Sell the team, Terry.

^ This, I would hire DeBoer as a coach

Good for them, if so. But does anyone have any reason to think that even by random change the chucklehead silent owner would luck into smart hockey folks? The dim leading the dim isn't working, and Captain Yacht doesn't want anyone who will tell him he's a dunce.

They probably hooked him up to IV antibiotics and have been doing cultures to verify the infection is gone, must have been bad and they needed to nip this thing quickly. I don't think this looks good on the training staff and wound care - but we have enough to bitch about

I think this board is going to really like Klepov.

The scary thing is that the plan was thought to possibly be: promote Adams/Lindy once their contract ends, bring in Jarmo and Appert, etc , ... Its only two games but it sure seems like the players might be trying to influence another outcome.

Adams back, every single coach back, and ending up with $3MM in cap space after seeming to not get equal value in the Peterka trade lead to this off-season being extremely disappointing. Then not having Kesselring nor Benson available to start the year and losing Norris before the 1st game was over simply compound it. Lyon actually looking like the Swamp Cat version of himself with all the rest of that, even though it's a pleasant surprise, is simply a waste at this point.

I think I hate this team more than any of the previous iterations. There's no juice. No exciting new player that I am excited to watch. Just nothing. Some of the least inspired, milquetoast, passive nonsense that gives me no hope for this season to be anything but lost

... he was hospitalized for it Ruff said Wednesday

I knew he took a pick to the face, but jeebus, a week and a half for an infection?

I don't know about the off ice stuff, and you make good points to mention it because it is important. What did he learn from Okposo? That is most likely his blueprint for what an NHL captain looks like. Which gets into how few truly effective veterans our kids have played with. The Sabres blew the whole captain thing when they picked Eichel over ROR in my opinion. As for Dahlin, I can only go by his on-ice effort and his willingness to play hard.