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12 years. But otherwise, yeah

You are right that there is zero chance that half the roster will be flipped. And that would be the right approach to take. There needs to be a few consequential moves to change the roster dynamic. I have little confidence in KA but as @Thornypoints out the $$$ should be put on Jarmo.

It just reveals what we already know....this team is full of coasters who don't want to get their hands dirty and put in the work. It will be sooner than later when Tage adds his name to the list of people who will demand out of here. I started to think that it would be best to relocate for a year if you knew you could get a brand new team after the 2025 season. Either that or trade Dahlin, Tuch, Peterka and Tuch and start with a whole new group. It can't get any worse than it is now and maybe the next group will offer entertaining hockey once in a while.

In a recent discussion, a few people opined that winning doesn't matter to Mr. Pegula. I could not fathom this, as he was pretty emotional when he purchased the team about wanting to win a Stanley Cup. He seemed to be a genuine fan of the Buffalo Sabres. Now, I received a survey from the Sabres organization asking about game day experience. There were a few questions about the team's performance and how much that matters regarding whether I attend a game or not. But there were also several questions about what I call the "entertainment experience." Things like the music, or the food, or the entertainment on the ice betweens periods, or... whatever. I started thinking about a game I went to last year where there were 4 guys seated behind us. All they talked about during play was the bets they had placed on things like the score at the end of the period, who would be winning, or whatever things people bet on nowadays. After the period ended, the 4 guys left and never returned to their seats. But, they had purchased tickets for the game. This has me thinking: Is it more important to entertain the people in the stands (or watching on TV) than it is to satisfy the actual hockey fans who care whether the team wins or not? Is there more money to be made by attracting casual fans who need to be "entertained" by things other than the game and its results? Do actual "Sabres fanatics" matter anymore? Between casual fans and fans of the opposing teams, it seems like more seats are filled by them than actual Sabres fans. The NFL seems to be aware of this, too. Halftime entertainment, music, food options, 6-hour pregame shows, scoreboard clips in between play, etc. The Super Bowl is widely regarded as no longer being a football contest pitting the two top teams, but rather a "mega event" that attracts A-list celebrities. Is that happening to all sports and at every game now?

Eichel, Reinhart, O’Reilly, Peterka were floating through my head when I typed it out

Thanks for the link, will give it a listen. I thought his frustration was pretty clear locker clean out.

I saw this on another board and it just made me mad all over again, i still cannot beleive no one, no one grabbed anyone! I am back to wanting Samuelssen traded, I dont care if itd for nothing, I dont want him on my team if he will stand there and do nothing, hes gotta go

Who are you thinking of?

Pretty good interview. The whole thing starts at 1:26:00. It's longish at 45 minutes or so. I'm surprised how candid he is. He makes a few comments through out about how hard it is not to be in the playoffs, it eats away, how it drove other players to leave and he gets that at this point in his career. Tage also mentions that he hears the noise about Buffalo and that it's hard not to. He talks about the hit where nobody jumps in and says watching the replay he wishes somebody did but everybody apologized and Lindy leaned into the group about it. Start at about 2:06:00. I wouldn't be shocked of he's the first one who asks out of here. https://youtu.be/KGlLo7Kg_Os?si=IFH2aR8awEfIhgXI

The sabres don’t seem to negotiate or convince when a player has concerns it sounds like they just give up errrrr revert to “we only want players who want to be here.”

A player we’d have an excuse not to pony up the cash for, you say? He also looks 70 And is 27 It’s like a mirror image haha

Depends what the return is. If we deal JJ and Byram for futures Norris will be promoted as the big offseason addition as predicted and the transformation is minimal could also easily end up with a situation where we’ve bridged JJ, dealt Byram for a depth vet D and a high pick, and “added” Norris. Again, minimal transformation If we deal Peterka for a Peterka level player and Byram for a concept of Byram level player we can talk

Jarmo only

I’ve lost hope indefinitely. I just don’t see anything getting done that needs to get done. They need to flip half the roster. Zero chance of that happening so…

For me…..Alex Tuch signing an extension.

I have hope for a 3ft nacho platter.

I've been saying since the beginning he deserves to go high. If he goes at 6 it's not an overdraft. I think the pro scouts are seeing the same things that anyone who's watched the kid since he was young has seen. He's got mental toughness and leadership that others don't have. You don't see this watching highlights and reading scouting reports, but the teams that will have interviewed him will for sure know.

Flattered but I feel like this isn't one of my best drafts. Haven't had as much time with some but did my best. It gets real questionable in the 20s as guys start to look similar. That said, my list is different than most consensus ones so I'll probably be worse off but we'll see. The industry as a whole runs into problems with anchoring, bias, and over scouting some guys (Hagens).

When do we start petitioning for @LGR4GM to be head of amateur scouting??

Jackson Smith please. Can't see myself being really unhappy with anyone in @LGR4GM's top 15 at 9. And I don't have any desire to move up. Looks pretty flat to me. Not big on Frondell and O'Brien as top 5 or 6 picks but they have value at 9. Don't want Eklund as a fit, but I like him as a player. And I'd be fine with "reaching" for Carbonneau or Bear or Aitcheson as guys I usually see mocked lower down because I like them too.

Ya then its Bear all day for me, even with the injury I still think he is something we dont have in our pipeline. He would instantly top my favorite prospect in our system list.

Martin is going to be over drafted. I do not believe he'll be there at 9.

For me it’s Jarmo in the front office, if he’s actually doing the deals we have a chance otherwise it’s pretty doom and gloom for us imo.