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I don’t think so. 2006 was the year without the Timmy injury and the bloody sock.

Oh that's okay. @Thorny already disagrees with almost everything I say anyway. see.

Amazing breakdown and a lot to think about. Tough to choose just one as the best chance to have won it all, you’re right.

The team reflects the owner and the GM who orchestrated the tank and EEE and lack of action. Simple as that. This is their manifestation on ice.

With all due respect to the '74-'75 squad which couldn't win a game in Filly to save their lives but due to tiebreakers would have to win at minimum 1 game there heading into that series and as it turned out would've needed 2 wins there which was pretty much impossible back then, the 3 times the Sabres were closest to winning it all were '99, '01, and '06. Yes, Dallas was the better team overall, but there was a reasonable chance that Modano and Hull (and maybe even Niewendyk) would not be able to go in game 7. Take any of them out of the lineup and the Sabres have a great chance to win a game 7 if they can score 1 more goal in game 6 after they drop the puck at the Sabres blue line. In '01 they should've beat the Pens. If they did, they had Joisey's # that year, and beat the Avs in Colorado with Biron in net. So, they had a great likelihood of getting past the Devils and then could've won a long series versus the Avs. Yeah, in '06 they were 20 minutes away from facing a much weaker Euler team, but those injuries to the D and Connolly were killers. Had they been able to stay healthy rather than lose a D-man after every victory in the Semis, yeah, they definitely win that and then hoist the Cup by the end of the next round. It's an interesting exercise to think of which one of those teams had the best chance to take it all. The '93 squad needs mention too. Yes, they lost in the 2nd round to the eventual Cup champs in 4 straight. But all 4 of those were 4-3 games, 3 went to OT, and all 4 they had an injured Fuhr between the pipes rather than the best goalie that ever lived who, btw, was between the pipes when Brad May made Ray Bourque look like Phil Bourque. Each of those 1 goal games also had at least 1 bad goal given up by Fuhr. Get past Moe-ray-all and the Aisles were much weaker and then the LA series could've gone either way. The '80 team had the misfortune of winning their 2nd round too quickly, or so the story goes. They sat around for 9 days waiting for their next opponent and couldn't get back into the swing of things until they were behind the 8 ball facing a 3 game deficit. Thing is, the Aisles sat around for a full week too waiting for Minny and Moe-ray-all to finish their series. They had a chance to win it all, but they always had problems with the Aisles back then and the Phlyers too and even if they got past the Aisles, Filly would've been waiting there for them. Personally felt they were further from winning it all than any of those other teams mentioned here, and were farther than '89 and '07 as well.

I mean you trade for a 40mm contract attached to a porcelain princess who will likely play 10 games for us since the trade and thru this year cause if he does come back I fully anticipate 1 game and out for the season.... the owner can't be happy with this... but maybe he is so clueless he is just fine with it... cause he's just happy to be here.

Kevyn thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, that's the problem. He was convinced (and apparently still is) that he could build a championship roster by stockpiling prospects and waiting for them to develop. Problem with that is it takes years and inherently a large sum of those prospects won't "hit." He's still married to the notion that "his guys" should be enough, we just need patience. There's also the fact that he seems to have accepted that Buffalo is not an attractive destination for FAs, so why even try? I won't argue that the first part isn't right, but I do not want the GM accepting that. Get a guy in here that is a good enough salesman and has enough balls, that he can sell FAs on a plan and maybe snag a couple of them. And I'm not talking about Zuckers, who while a nice player and a good guy to have around, is not transformative to a roster that needs transformative guys. Adams is an abjectively failed GM and any serious hockey organization would have already moved on.

Unfortunately, we are only two games into the season and there already is no confidence or even hope that this team will be contending for a playoff spot. I see a team that that is suffering from poor trades and free agent acquisitions, contract overpays, and a farm system that can't easily replace Norris and Peterka. Adams has had enough time to right the ship. He should have been relieved of his duties as GM after last season (and probably after the season before last season). TP should have an open GM search and retain the best qualified candidate. I don't think it is Jarmo.

Norris obviously has issues with the way has he been from birth. Great player but there is something other ‘thing’ going on

I hope you're right but I don't think Terry is that in the trenches.

Hamsammich didn't patent that. Andrea Kramer was nailing the 2 minute long non-question question on ESPN long before Hammy was contemplating a career in sports journalism. He's merely the cheap 3D printed knock off getting sold on E-bay to unsuspecting collectors. Good for Lyon on not running with Paul's set up. Wonder if he becomes Paul's new Reinhart?

I suggest the 4 folks who graciously “agreed” with this should rescind their green check: they added “Eric Staal” as an “advisor” Which of course nullified the spirit of my argument

It’s funny if any of these guys want out. They’re the ones on the ice giving pucks away, shooting it right into the goalie’s chest, not skating hard, missing coverage, and so on. If any player besides Dahlin and Lyon want to see the problem they should look in the mirror.

It's rare for the top players to be good coaches. Toe Blakes are pretty much unicorns. Even Brind'Amours are fairly rare. How does Gretzky go about explaining to his team how to understand where the puck is going to be in 4 seconds and where all other 11 guys are now and where they'll be in a few seconds? Answer: he doesn't. You pretty much can't teach that. But the guys that have to bust their arses to get to and stay in the league are, along with former goalies, the guys that tend to be the best coaches and can fairly often translate to management as well. (Though studs seem to have better track records on the management side than the coaching side. There are more of them that make good than there are that make good coaches. Probably because a lot of management is schmoozing with their compatriots and they're the ones that as players were always getting the interview requests and attention so they're good at that part of the job.) Adams fits firmly in that guys who had to bust their arse to get and stay there. Probably should've moved back to the development side of things after running a rink rather than running a team.

I want out but my fan contract expires upon death

While results don't seem to matter to Terry, I feel like the $40mil owed to Norris might be what finally gets Adams fired.

This is something you saw in an embedded sabres media video?

Oh this is coming very soon make no mistake the problem is if its Adams making the trades

i think it's normal or even standard for a 6/7 d-man to get traded for a 4th rounder without one GM saying to his counterpart “let me first clear this with my owner.”

They should have known better when they didn’t fire Kevyn Adams better, Punch?

Are there people here saying Kevyn shouldn't be fired? Because I'm not seeing it. What I am seeing is that Adams won't be fired because Terry doesn't give enough of a ***** to do it. I think Adams should have been fired during the 13 game losing streak. Instead they got a pep talk from Terry and a day off and the band plays on. It's wash, rinse, repeat.

You just go off on these poster not the post rants because you can’t stand the fact you can’t stand on merit vs my arguments. It’s just time and time again - “anything we get from Norris beyond nothing is gravy”. Your takes are stinky.

I can’t even muster up an emotion. I wasn’t hopeful going in to this season. I mean literally, I can’t even summons a good joke about this team. I used the “it hasn’t moved in 3 seasons shtick 4 years ago. I am numb, my love of the game is limp.

You just tell on yourself with this, because I didn’t do what he’s claiming in his post you have no argument