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How do they measure high danger shots against when there are 5 guys on the ice? Aren't all 5 responsible? Also, I thought the stats said Zucker was one of our good defenders?

Well ya, they simply aren't committed to winning. There are some teams that set a high bar and will do whatever they can to try to win and win now. They don't always get it right and only 1 wins it all but they are usually in the hunt and have some sort of playoffs. Then there are teams like the Sabres, and I don't really know what their real aim is as doing whatever you can to win now doesn't seem to be it.

The only addition by subtraction I want right now is Adams and the entire coaching staff to get fired.

I think that a lot of people in Buffalo feel that way

The good defenders: Least shot attempts against per 60: Benson 50.58 Dahlin 52.61 Malenstyn 55.5 Krebs 55.68 Greenway 56.32 Least high danger shots against per 60: Benson 1.84 Greenway 2.23 Dahlin 2.44 Power 2.48 McLeod 2.48 Fewest expected goals against per 60: Benson 2.2 Dahlin 2.36 Malenstyn 2.45 Lafferty 2.55 Tuch 2.58

Money puck has an interesting section I hadn’t really checked out before: basically defence per hour: The bad defenders: Most shot attempts against per 60: Clifton 63.4 Zucker 62.1 Peterka 61.5 Kulich 60.6 Quinn 60.4 Most high danger shots against per 60: Peterka 3.41 Lafferty 3.16 Byram 3.06 Clifton 3.04 Samuelsson 2.94 Expected goals against per 60: Peterka 3.0 Bryson 2.9 Quinn 2.8 Zucker 2.8 Clifton 2.8

Trades are fun and the nhl can always use more fun. Get rid of the nmc & increase parity

Thompson ranks 4th among Sabres forwards in Corsi, 3rd in GF% and 2nd in xG%. He’s above 50% in all three measures. He’s also almost certainly playing against good players.

I thought there was a story of the wife or girlfriend that wanted him there and everyone knew he would wind up there.

For $70MM at the age of 29. It was viewed as a HUGE overpay by most everyone but him and Zito. Turns out it was a very good contract but without being willing to go to the "overpay," Bobrovsky almost definitely ends up elsewhere.

Good shooters get to the good spots? Good shooters also are more ACCURATE from the good spots. Every point you make, there is an equal counterpoint to. And doesn't GF% take into consideration where the shots are taken from, regardless of whether the shooter is good or not? I think so. Xgf takes into account the defensive side of things...as does GF%. I'm not arguing that xgf is a terrible stat. I'm just saying it is just one peice of the puzzle, just like gf%. I tend to SLIGHTLY like gf% over xgf% when looked at over the course of a few seasons. But again, I'm not going to evaluate a player on gf% alone, xgf% alone....I think you need to look at them with context to each other...AND the other stats, and over a course of time WITH looking at their teammates comparison. The only major problem I have with xGF% is when people just throw it out there and use it as the best stat to judge a player. When someone says "They are good because they have a better xGF% than the next guy", I tend to think that only tells 10% of the story, or less. In the past we have had some posts were people supported their opinion of whether someone was good, or not good, based on xgf% and little else.

All you guys gonna die

Im not convinced they’ve ever succeeded at the second part.

Jays.

A lot of it stems from the fact ownership and management have different aims in priority than the fan base. It’s a little less, “I’m a hockey wizard!” - Terry Pegula, than people think and a little more “Come in on budget, and don’t build a roster so bad that playoffs look like an impossibility.” their whole thing is plausible deniability.

I love +/- specifically for this thread title because it combines both mathematical symbols in sequence. It's the perfect stat.

I will add that after Maxwell agrees to exonerate the cheeto in chief and gets her pardon for participating in the sex trafficking and raping of children, that because some of these crimes were committed in New York, that she can somehow be prosecuted because that pardon would only apply to her federal conviction. I need to research if the double jeopardy standard applies.

They do have to get off the treadmill but do you see anything that makes you think they get this? I still see a team where Terry Pegula thinks he knows best. Thinks he knows hockey. Has an idea and is sticking with it. When it inevitably goes wrong he simply thinks my idea was right, they just drafted the wrong guys so we will get rid of them and get new guys to work with/under me and we will get the right guys this time. Constant circular process. I still believe they do it backwards every time. Maybe eventually it'll work for them but so far not even close. My belief is the opposite of theirs. It's (in simplest terms) 1. tear it all down and subtract everybody that gets you value or is a problem. 2. build the culture with vets and hard workers. Instill this into the team first. 3. Get goaltending and build a hard to play against D and team structure. 4. Add scoring talent (some of which you will have drafted during the first part). You end up with a strong culture and a balanced roster from the back end out. That's my belief anyway and it should take about 5 years to become a solid competitive playoff team. You can argue nuance and details on that and winning lotteries and other luck factors in but overall, that's the rebuild model I believe in. Pegula does not. He knows better. But he doesn't "micromanage" 🙂

https://apple.news/ADLE80IPbR-az1eZ_21SdIA Needless to say, this all reeks. But I’m not surprised that a convicted felon and sexual abuser like Trump would have sympathy for a fellow convicted sexual abuser and felon like Maxwell. Everything this administration will say about Trump’s association with Epstein will be a lie, just like everything they’ve said so far. Sickening.

You vote for a party and then that party gets that percentage of seats. It is how the electoral college should already work. It is insane that if you get 1 more vote than the other guy you get an entire states EC.

I don't agree. +/- only tells us that players even strength goal differential. I think within a team it can tell you some things but I don't think he tells us how successful a player was. If I take Zach Benson and deploy him with Bryson and Samuelsson and he gets UPL being a sieve every night, his +/- is going to be ***** regardless of what he does. In the end, I think ppl will use the stats they like and I can't really argue with that. I use xgf% because it helps be contextualize both offense and defense.

THAT is a great idea... depending on the state or country you are in... so, if the average regional tax is 4% and you are in an 8% effective tax region the player gets 4% more for taxes outside of the cap or something like that... that actually is an interesting concept...

I fully understand the limitations of +\- but I disagree it should be ignored. The object of the game is to score more than the other guy. It doesn’t show if a player is good or bad, but it shows how successful a player was in the manner he was deployed.

agreed, NMC's problems are not the Sabres issue... they are a result of incompetence... they should not resign themselves to futility or use that excuse in combination with taxes to blame their failure on outside influences... thats loser talk and the are the King and Queen Pooba of losers... and yes if they do deem it a problem it would clearly need to be resolved thru negotiation with the NHLPA and the CBA

Six years ago Bobrovsky willingly signed there as a free agent. That was a case of someone specifically wanting the market.