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My worst nightmare is that you are correct and yet they trade UPL and he is in fact a solid goalie on a good team, like Ullmark. We know what UPL is. At best he is a streaky guy that can win games if he plays a lot and if he gets support, but he will eventually stumble and cost you games. We know what Lyon is. At best he is a short time 1B that can get hot, but the reality is that he is a journeyman #2 We are learning about Ellis.

Really disappointed with Thompson, and last night was the last straw for me. When he wants to play, he's a great player. Unfortunately, the "want" is not there often enough.

It was tongue in cheek, just want to keep in mind that Expected Goals is not the same as actual Goals. You have guys who bury the puck and guys that do not. Another poster here used analytics to argue that Errson had a better game than Ellis. Did we not see that by watching the game? I also saw him throw his stick to make a save, and I saw him make back to back pad saves, giving off huge rebounds, while being so far out of position that he never knew were the puck was or when the shot was coming. Do they have analytics for good luck and bad luck too? I see the value of these analytics and its mostly when you look at them over an extended period of time and the lucky/flukey stuff can balance out.

We diverge here. I think that's exactly what was happening.

1-3-1 after Philadelphia game

What cup is that? I think a lot of us were infatuated with him because of what he accomplished in college and because we were hoping beyond hope that he could finally be the answer. Other than a few bright moments it didn't take long to see that he was nowhere close to being an NHL caliber goalie. Maybe he was put into the NHL situation too fast by the Sabres out of desperation which stymied his development process and confidence, or maybe Levi just is not going to be NHL material for a while, if at all. Either way, I hope he isn't brought up until he actually shows he belongs with the big boys.

It really is, which is why I wonder if it’s even fair to evaluate Ellis based on last night’s loss. An elite goalie would’ve been able to stop some of those goals, but still.

I mean, I don’t know what to say honestly Sidc, losing 10+ in a row, 18 in a row one season, is not merely a gauge, it’s an air raid siren with giant rotating red strobe lights to boot.

While this is true, it doesn’t change the blown opportunities last night. They were in those lanes, with wide open nets. And it’s not the first game this has happened.

Sabres

What is the jolt this franchise needs?

Wow, you’re being generous. I’m going with no regulation wins. 0-5-1

Stats are great but it’s obviously not translating to goals so they’re just numbers on a website.

Your top guys, Dahiln and Thompson, need to be at the top of this list... not the bottom. ============================================================== BUF even strength goal differential through 27 games = -17 BUF even strength minutes played through 27 games = 1364.21 exp+/- is a function of %min played at ES and team ES goal diff TRpm(team relative +/-) is the diff btwn actual+/- and exp+/- %min is % of ES minutes played ============================================================== Team Player TRpm GP +/- exp+/- %min BUF Mattias Samuelsson 11.89 25 6 -5.89 34.6 BUF Alex Tuch 7.74 27 3 -4.74 27.9 BUF Noah Östlund 4.76 19 2 -2.76 16.2 BUF Zach Benson 4.45 14 2 -2.45 14.4 BUF Ryan McLeod 2.65 27 -2 -4.65 27.3 BUF Jacob Bryson 1.37 17 -1 -2.37 14.0 BUF Owen Power 0.61 26 -5 -5.61 33.0 BUF Josh Doan 0.36 27 -4 -4.36 25.6 BUF Bowen Byram 0.17 27 -6 -6.17 36.3 BUF Tyson Kozak -0.30 19 -3 -2.70 15.9 BUF Isak Rosen -0.46 10 -2 -1.54 9.1 BUF Mason Geertsen -0.74 5 -1 -0.26 1.5 BUF Jack Quinn -1.36 27 -6 -4.64 27.3 BUF Michael Kesselring -1.39 9 -3 -1.61 9.5 BUF Jiri Kulich -1.80 12 -4 -2.20 12.9 BUF Beck Malenstyn -1.93 26 -5 -3.07 18.1 BUF Rasmus Dahlin -2.02 24 -8 -5.98 35.2 BUF Conor Timmins -2.53 27 -8 -5.47 32.2 BUF Tage Thompson -2.94 27 -8 -5.06 29.8 BUF Jason Zucker -4.12 19 -7 -2.88 16.9 BUF Peyton Krebs -4.60 27 -9 -4.40 25.9 BUF Jordan Greenway -4.98 13 -7 -2.02 11.9 ==============================================================

A losing streak would just cement their last or near last place finish. Not wining more than 2 in a row and not wining on the road is better gauge in my opinion

Our shooting % is middle of the league only slightly above average. Our High Danger Chances in the slot or close range are middle of the league as well, but have improved from 6.83 to 8.16 per game through November. So, to your point, we are moving in the right direction.

It's one thing I miss about Peterka. He is an on stick off stick shooter. Too many of our guys try to pick the spots.

A 3 game win streak would almost be parade worthy.

Here’s what I would do to level the playing field. After a 2 game win streak, the first goalie who plays enough to win the 3rd stays.

I just think saying the Sabres need to shoot more accurately is lazy. The problem isn’t the shooters skill set. The Sabres have some of the best shooters on the league. What they need to do is develop better scoring chances so they don’t have to always pick the corners (aka Tuch always “missing the net”). It’s happening because the open looks aren’t there. So he’s left banking pucks off goalie’s backs or missing the net trying to squeeze the puck into a 4 square inch hole.

Yes. Metrics are metrics, won’t argue them. My anecdotal observation watching nearly every game is that in the slot below the keys our players only occasionally snipe a corner or five hole and too often hit the crest or give the goalie a glove or blocker save. It’s about that half second poise before shooting, picking their target, and hitting it with a quick shot. As @Pimlach said, it’s about scoring goals.

Bumping

And with fuzzy rule it's absolutely asinine that a failed goalie interference challenge results in a penalty. You want to protect the goalies? Make the crease bigger and go back to the "foot in the crease" rule of the 90s.

UPL is serviceable.... IMO he's good enough to be a starter on a playoff team, but not good enough to get this Sabres team to the playoffs. Considering their recent play I was shocked when Ellis got the start last night. UPL hasn't give up more than 3 goals since his first game of the season in late October. Both Ellis and Lyon have given up more than 3 in 4 of their last 6 starts... since Nov 1st, they both rank near the bottom of the league in goaltending metrics, while UPL is in the top 3rd. It seems obvious that UPL should be the #1 moving forward.

The Dodo is going to become de-extincted within the next 5-7 years!