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Lol, I've seen this happen once or twice.

The dreaded 22 or worse, 24 pointer 😂 I used to play daily with my grandparents, great aunts & uncles. When grandpa went on oxygen full time I played every night with him for years. I miss those times.

I can’t wait to hear what Ray has to say during the next DeTROYit game.

Yes, and the stick was still well on the Eulers side of the line when it stopped making contact with the puck. It was in fact a blown call. Not the 1st that game; not the last. And, personally, believe that IF they are going to review a significant subset of plays that should've resulted in a whistle to end the play after a goal has been scored then they should review ALL non-judgement calls as to whether play should have been stopped when they lead directly to the goal being scored. They can have somebody watching the game determining whether something is questionable and MIGHT require additional review in real time just like they claim they do with all plays that result in the puck traversing near the net. So, on that 1st goal, have somebody upstairs or in TO beep down and say, uh guys, that puck wasn't close to being over the red line when it was shot into the zone. It was an egreious error and it had a significant effect on how the game played out past that point. It literally led directly to the Eulers' 1st goal. Had the guy who shot it down the ice played it with a high stick that didn't get called, they would've been able to call the goal back. What's the material difference in how the puck was transferred to the goalie from one case to the other. Review them both or review neither of them, but just be consistent. And would be ok with going back to none of that being reviewable, if that's the way they want it to go; though personally would prefer to see them fix the replay system (as it CAN be a useful tool) rather than get rid of it (and they aren't getting rid of it, no matter how much you want them to). But it is dumb to have stuff like a potential hand pass or the puck hitting the net above the glass being reviewable and not other major potential misses that can result in a team letting up ever so slightly because their players KNOW the play is about to be whistled dead. Not overly germane to this discussion, but a blown icing call in OT very possibly cost the Sabres a chance to get thumped by the Red Wings back in '98. They changed the video review rules because of other events of that game, but didn't alter that aspect of the review.

Yes, I like Doan. I like how he plays. He is the kind of player you should have been building around all along. I feel for him because in time he will lose his love for hockey. The Sabres organization does not understand how you build a culture. It is simple as that. Two things to consider. Heard Hamilton today pointing out in their entire history they have only hired an experienced GM (experienced as a GM) twice. Scotty Bowman and Punch Imlach. Two eras in which we had a good hockey team. The eras that made me into a Sabres fan. Very telling. The second you won't like because I heard it said at the Bruins post game presser. Quote from Sturm that says everything "that's what good teams do. They don't complain. They just go out and work." Have you not noticed how much complaining Ruff does? How Sabres players constantly look to refs for calls. Everyone complaining and looking for someone else to fix the problem. Good teams just get out there and WORK. Pegula does not understand any of this.

Forsberg lost an edge there. No one is intentionally running a goalie during a shootout attempt. But it does make me want to suggest a rule. If you intentionally run a goalie in a shootout, your team automatically loses. edit: Hell, forfeit the loser point too.

Well you shouldn't have dealt me 2 5's, a 4 and a 6..........and then I cut for another 6 so I'm feeling ok 😉

But what you said was Doan should be on a different team.

Because I do not think Pegula will sell the team and thus I do not think the core philosophy will change and I do not think the organization will change at all. It's possible they go a little up or down and some people get shuffled around but I have no hope that things will ever improve. Don't get me wrong, I WANT them to improve, but I'm also a realist.

As of today, JJ Peterka is 12-11-23 in 31 games, 4th in points on the Mammoth. Josh Doan is 10-22-22 in 30 games, 4th in points on the Sabres.

100% Add this to his, already, waaaaay too long a list of deficiencies that, in summation, equates to an individual who is as close to me hating, without 1) actually meeting them and 2) them having no direct impact on my life, other than their perpetually $hitting on one of my preferred forms of entertainment. Seriously, I FU#K!NG LOVE the Sabres, and it's his mistreatment of this team, be it intentional or not, and the subsequent denaturing of this once proud and entertaining franchise, which has produced these toxic feelings within Life can be tough enough, sports entertainment is supposed to be a temporary escape from those life-stressors. Who is getting ANY enjoyment from witnessing Adams' "opus"??? I suppose tragedies are a form of entertainment, for some? What's worse is he isn't showing any sign(s) that he's ever going to actually figure out what it is that this team really needs, nor does it seem that IF (and it's a big if) he did somehow did "figure it out" he would know HOW to pull off what needs to be pulled off in order to drag this pathetic franchise out of the ashes of irrelevance??? However long he's had to right this ship has been, logically/traditionally waaaaay too long, and his continued tenure is nothing more than an additional layer of frustration Realizing this leads to me asking myself, "WHY TF do I even bother wasting my time watching this f#ck show?" Love & loyalty, and they are a real bit*h during the lean times. My rational side screams "run away from this mess!!!" But love and loyalty don't always see, eye to eye with logic... So, here we are; the witnesses to a sunk ship that we all share deck space upon!!! 😃 This drought era has been something else, for sure 😬 Even IF unca Terry actually spares us any further indignation from his enormous mistake of hiring/retaining GM Adams, do any of you have any belief that his next hire will produce better results? His previous examples don't provide much confidence IMO The last best years were the Drury-led ones, and that really does feel like a whole other lifetime ago....

I have no problem with challenging goals due to offside. If the challenging team is wrong, they then get penalized. If the challenge is upheld, then the goal shouldn't count.

What bothers me about the offside is how many times the linesmen are letting it go now there is video review. The close ones I understand but some of the reversals are too easy. They would rather the play go on then be wrong the other way. In general I don't have a problem with offside challenges. There is very little interpretation other than a player fumbling a puck over the line.

He's a terrible speaker and would likely say something that would come off the wrong way, which is why some people want him to speak. So they can embarrass him further. He doesn't have to sell the team, just leave management to someone skilled and get out of the way. But also spend enough money to do it right.

Probably true. I suspect that the league thinks (or knows, based on data) that replay reviews, aka letting the fan make the call, make the product "stickier." It draws and retains attention.

Not a press conference. He could go into the friendly confines of Dufferland and Biron sur la mer.

Not just the Sabres. It's an NHL problem not a specific to us. This happened last night. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/wedgewood-pulled-by-spotter-in-shootout-after-collision-with-forsberg/ Also Duffer was commenting about the Sens going after Markstrom in NJ.

This team is a league wide joke. Pegula need to make changes, major changes, or sell the team.

You don't need Terry Pegula to have a press conference. You need him to take meaningful actions to change the middling course of this franchise. According to Paul Hamilton on WGR, the hiring and retaining KA as the GM is and was an inexplicable mistake. In the first segment of this link, Paul Hamilton talks about the necessity of the owner to fire the GM, sooner rather than later. And Paul H. talks about how the Sabres are considered as a joke franchise by the rest of the league. The problem with this perplexing owner is not his not talking as it is his not acting when it is required. https://www.audacy.com/podcast/the-jeremy-joe-show-9b4b9/episodes/hour-2-owen-and-paul-on-the-sabres-ot-win-and-sal-on-the-bills-heading-into-week-15-c27d4

All talk...

I understand the frustration, but I don't think it's a "PR faux pas" not to put Terry in front of a microphone and have him explain himself. I think it's been quietly determined that it would be a "PR debacle" if Terry were to speak freely and publicly about what he's thinking with the Sabres (or Bills, for that matter). I'll add here: I have it on first-hand authority that Terry will, in fact, talk at length about what's going on with the Bills and Sabres. That's quite a funny story. I'm not sure I have shared it here (and, if not, whether I can/should).

I dont understand what Pegula having press conferences accomplishes. Lazy complaint

I started watching it yesterday, I only got a few minutes into it. The other guys asked Rob Ray about some players (Dahlin, Power, I think Benson, and others) and Rob had nothing but good things to say about them. When any individual person was brought up, whether the players or coach, I got the impression Ray basically said everyone was great (individually)

Think it needs to be challengeable with same consequences.

"Terry's words really got into corners, kept pressure on my D and looked to finish around the net. Because I'm so slow and took many hits to the face, he needed to simplify his game. Really strong effort even if the results weren't there."