Sabres Training Camp 2025

[PerreaultForever]

5 hours ago, dudacek said:

Not one line from the first 2 days of camp played together for more than one game last season. Not one.

Three of them had never played together before. Ever.

Well sure you can say that and you're being overly specific. The basic combinations laid out are the same. Ruff played Norris with Thompson for what was it 2 games, 3? I forget. Whatever few seconds he was healthy or able to play on arrival. Benson is in Peterka's spot. It's all exactly the same. 

[ska-T Palmtown]

24 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Well I hope they are moving people around and actually have open minds. It would be nice if someone unexpected jumped up and made a decision or two difficult. 

I think the Norris Thompson pairing has always been their idea. It's what Ruff looked at for the brief moment Norris played. I don't want to hear anything about Quinn until Quinn shows something on the ice. 

QUINN QUINN QUINN!

Just kidding around - I hear ya ... he has a LOT to prove.

[tom webster]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

Well sure you can say that and you're being overly specific. The basic combinations laid out are the same. Ruff played Norris with Thompson for what was it 2 games, 3? I forget. Whatever few seconds he was healthy or able to play on arrival. Benson is in Peterka's spot. It's all exactly the same. 

This all just sounds like looking for something to complain about. Why do players have to play with different players to shine? If someone practices above expectations he’ll get noticed and given a chance.

Besides, since the advent of contract guarantees and the salary cap, a well informed person can accurately predict 99% of any professional team’s opening day roster before training cap starts.

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

Well sure you can say that and you're being overly specific. The basic combinations laid out are the same. Ruff played Norris with Thompson for what was it 2 games, 3? I forget. Whatever few seconds he was healthy or able to play on arrival. Benson is in Peterka's spot. It's all exactly the same. 

The issue isn’t whether the roster is the same or not (it isn’t). The issue is whether the players, collectively, play better.

 

Will players like Benson, Quinn, Kulich, Power, Samuelson and UPL be better this season? Can’t say for sure but am Inclined to think so. You seem to be more pessimistic than I am. We’ll just have to wait and see when the season starts. What I’m not going to do is have a hardened viewpoint before the season starts, let alone before the preseason games begin. 

[inkman]

2 minutes ago, JohnC said:

The issue isn’t whether the roster is the same or not (it isn’t). The issue is whether the players, collectively, play better.

 

Will players like Benson, Quinn, Kulich, Power, Samuelson and UPL be better this season? Can’t say for sure but am Inclined to think so. You seem to be more pessimistic than I am. We’ll just have to wait and see when the season starts. What I’m not going to do is have a hardened viewpoint before the season starts, let alone before the preseason games begin. 

Honestly laying it out like this makes me sad. I’m relying more on Kesselring and Doan to change the culture here. I’m not confident that’s anywhere near enough.  They still need to remove the cowards and bring in players with daddy issues.  I want guys with an axe to grind and enjoy senseless violence. 

[JohnC]

8 minutes ago, inkman said:

Honestly laying it out like this makes me sad. I’m relying more on Kesselring and Doan to change the culture here. I’m not confident that’s anywhere near enough.  They still need to remove the cowards and bring in players with daddy issues.  I want guys with an axe to grind and enjoy senseless violence. 

Getting better goaltending is the most important issue for me. I’m just so unsure about our goaltending group????

[bob_sauve28]

 

[PerreaultForever]

3 hours ago, tom webster said:

This all just sounds like looking for something to complain about. Why do players have to play with different players to shine? If someone practices above expectations he’ll get noticed and given a chance.

Besides, since the advent of contract guarantees and the salary cap, a well informed person can accurately predict 99% of any professional team’s opening day roster before training cap starts.

My response to you would be why aren't you complaining? You don't seriously believe or have hope do you? Why isn't everyone complaining after 14 years? You should be. 

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, JohnC said:

The issue isn’t whether the roster is the same or not (it isn’t). The issue is whether the players, collectively, play better.

 

Will players like Benson, Quinn, Kulich, Power, Samuelson and UPL be better this season? Can’t say for sure but am Inclined to think so. You seem to be more pessimistic than I am. We’ll just have to wait and see when the season starts. What I’m not going to do is have a hardened viewpoint before the season starts, let alone before the preseason games begin. 

14 years how can you NOT be more pessimistic? While I would like things to be different I simply cannot fathom why anyone still has belief or hope in this franchise. What you say is the Buffalo way. Hoping and expecting the same players to be better rather than making enough changes and additions for the team to actually be better. 

[Brawndo]

They have the opportunity to have a defensively responsible puck hound on each line. 
 

Benson with Norris and Tage

Doan with Quinn and Kulich 

McLeod, Tuch and Zucker all together. 

[JohnC]

12 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

14 years how can you NOT be more pessimistic? While I would like things to be different I simply cannot fathom why anyone still has belief or hope in this franchise. What you say is the Buffalo way. Hoping and expecting the same players to be better rather than making enough changes and additions for the team to actually be better. 

I’m not a clueless fan who is unrealistically optimistic. However, if I got to your level of pessimism about this team, I would cut the chord and do away with the torment. 

[K-9]

23 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

14 years how can you NOT be more pessimistic? While I would like things to be different I simply cannot fathom why anyone still has belief or hope in this franchise. What you say is the Buffalo way. Hoping and expecting the same players to be better rather than making enough changes and additions for the team to actually be better. 

[tom webster]

24 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

My response to you would be why aren't you complaining? You don't seriously believe or have hope do you? Why isn't everyone complaining after 14 years? You should be. 

I actually am pretty confident they make the playoffs this year, for the record.
However, and more to the point, is that while I understand the skepticism and negativity, not everything they do is wrong or outside the norm for the league. Every team in the league goes into camp with only one or two roster spots open, all but about three to five teams would like to upgrade their goaltending, etc. etc.