Taro T Posted Saturday at 03:59 PM Report Posted Saturday at 03:59 PM It's a LONG video (over 23 minutes) and have no idea who this is that's saying it. But he has a very important message. Hope people watch; if not, whatevs. Love ya all.
Demoted Posted Saturday at 04:19 PM Report Posted Saturday at 04:19 PM (edited) When the Minnesota lawmakers died, Trump refused to say their names, Trump said he wouldn't call Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, suggesting it would "waste time." So as far as killing someone else over politics that should never happen. You should use your power of voting. Trump organization brings this on themselves by using violence against others and spreading false information to incite more violence. The problem is the Trump administration is trying to take away the power of voting so in the end some will resort to violence. Edited Saturday at 06:20 PM by Demoted 1
Demoted Posted Saturday at 06:22 PM Report Posted Saturday at 06:22 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, Taro T said: It's a LONG video (over 23 minutes) and have no idea who this is that's saying it. But he has a very important message. Hope people watch; if not, whatevs. Love ya all. They did the same when the MInnesota lawmakers were shot and Magorly Crazy Lady posted a picture of her with a rifle. It is politics doing this, they took over social media and run everything that goes into your brain. No need to watch some guys 30 min video. Edited Saturday at 08:36 PM by Demoted 1
Taro T Posted Saturday at 07:35 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 07:35 PM 1 hour ago, Demoted said: They did the same when the MInnesota lawmakers were shot and Magorly Crazy Lady posted a picture of her with a rifle. It is politics doing this, they took over social media and run everything that goes into your brain. Wadr, you seem to have missed the point of the video. Apologies for having wasted your time. 🍺 1
Demoted Posted Saturday at 08:38 PM Report Posted Saturday at 08:38 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Taro T said: Wadr, you seem to have missed the point of the video. Apologies for having wasted your time. 🍺 I didn't watch the video. His message is just another in a million of others that are on twitter. Edited Saturday at 09:52 PM by Demoted
Taro T Posted Saturday at 09:27 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 09:27 PM 46 minutes ago, Demoted said: I didn't watch the video. Well, that would explain how you completely missed the message he was trying to convey.
SABRES 0311 Posted Monday at 07:27 AM Report Posted Monday at 07:27 AM To answer the OP question I think it sucks for his wife and kids the most. His kids especially had no idea what he did for a living and only saw him as dad. This kind of stuff is pointless.
LTS Posted Monday at 04:04 PM Report Posted Monday at 04:04 PM On 9/13/2025 at 11:59 AM, Taro T said: It's a LONG video (over 23 minutes) and have no idea who this is that's saying it. But he has a very important message. Hope people watch; if not, whatevs. Love ya all. This would be why it might be helpful to post what your thought on the message in the video was. People aren't going to watch a long video.. or they might if they have some sense of what is in it. Overall, I think wanting harm to anyone is bad. It shouldn't happen. He should be allowed to speak his views and influence those who would listen and believe. But, there is a debatable point I think about when what someone speaks of might influence those who listen to cause harm to others. It's a very slippery slope. Are we to be held responsible for another person's actions because of what we might have said? Should Clark Griswold be held responsible for Cousin Eddy being stupid and kidnapping Clark's boss? (Yes, I use that as a bit tongue in cheek, but I feel the concept is there.) The bottom line to me is that both sides need to stop encouraging people to be so intolerant of those with different views. We should not be talking about violence against a corporate CEO any more than we should be talking about violence against someone for the sexual identification. Sadly we are on the path of escalation. I am hoping there's a shift in direction without there first being a seismic event that triggers it. 1
SABRES 0311 Posted Monday at 05:38 PM Report Posted Monday at 05:38 PM 1 hour ago, LTS said: This would be why it might be helpful to post what your thought on the message in the video was. People aren't going to watch a long video.. or they might if they have some sense of what is in it. Overall, I think wanting harm to anyone is bad. It shouldn't happen. He should be allowed to speak his views and influence those who would listen and believe. But, there is a debatable point I think about when what someone speaks of might influence those who listen to cause harm to others. It's a very slippery slope. Are we to be held responsible for another person's actions because of what we might have said? Should Clark Griswold be held responsible for Cousin Eddy being stupid and kidnapping Clark's boss? (Yes, I use that as a bit tongue in cheek, but I feel the concept is there.) The bottom line to me is that both sides need to stop encouraging people to be so intolerant of those with different views. We should not be talking about violence against a corporate CEO any more than we should be talking about violence against someone for the sexual identification. Sadly we are on the path of escalation. I am hoping there's a shift in direction without there first being a seismic event that triggers it. I can see someone being held accountable for influencing the actions of another if that person had some type of relationship. There was a girl who got into trouble a while back because she apparently influenced a guy who eventually committed suicide knowing he had feelings for her. Broader examples would be educators, close family, so on. That said, there is a constant bombardment of desensitization on the internet. Even if you don't know the people posting they can influence your perspective when it's the same message over and over. Also add in people gravitate to sources that affirm their existing ideas and the whole thing becomes a loop where people start to feel like the angry/violent thoughts they have are justified. Those groups and people are protected under the First Amendment and censorship is a slippery slope. However, they draw comparisons to the worst in humanity's history to get a prescribed emotional response. They do not want solutions because friction gets them what they really want which is clicks, views, and agitation. In the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, it's easy to see how jacked up in the head these people are based on what they are putting on social media. Some of them have been fired.
SABRES 0311 Posted Monday at 09:58 PM Report Posted Monday at 09:58 PM 12 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Please delete my quotes. I want nothing to do with this thread. I don't want my job or my family targeted. Please delete this or I'll go to a mod. I deleted what you posted but I don’t see what you’re worried about. 1
LGR4GM Posted Monday at 10:06 PM Report Posted Monday at 10:06 PM 7 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: I deleted what you posted but I don’t see what you’re worried about. Thank you, very much appreciated
LTS Posted yesterday at 05:07 PM Report Posted yesterday at 05:07 PM 23 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: I can see someone being held accountable for influencing the actions of another if that person had some type of relationship. There was a girl who got into trouble a while back because she apparently influenced a guy who eventually committed suicide knowing he had feelings for her. Broader examples would be educators, close family, so on. That said, there is a constant bombardment of desensitization on the internet. Even if you don't know the people posting they can influence your perspective when it's the same message over and over. Also add in people gravitate to sources that affirm their existing ideas and the whole thing becomes a loop where people start to feel like the angry/violent thoughts they have are justified. Those groups and people are protected under the First Amendment and censorship is a slippery slope. However, they draw comparisons to the worst in humanity's history to get a prescribed emotional response. They do not want solutions because friction gets them what they really want which is clicks, views, and agitation. In the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, it's easy to see how jacked up in the head these people are based on what they are putting on social media. Some of them have been fired. I agree. This is a natural byproduct I think of the Internet. Not that I've studied things but it seems logical that throughout history when there is an invention that brings large groups of people together who, until then, had been separated the difference of cultural norms will cause great friction. The Internet opened most of the world to instant communication as it has evolved. It is easier than ever to find people who agree with you or be influenced by others so that you agree with them. The traditional societal norms are not there to inhibit that behavior as it might have done in the past. Tack on perceived anonymity and certainly the safety of distance between those attacking and being attacked and it sets the stage for the behaviors we see today. Because corporations reflect the desire of the people they pick up on it and it snowballs. So, we have sensationalistic marketing, news, etc. That grows into even worse behaviors and here we are. I just hope there is a shift because the escalation is ramping up exponentially.
K-9 Posted yesterday at 06:39 PM Report Posted yesterday at 06:39 PM 1 hour ago, LTS said: I agree. This is a natural byproduct I think of the Internet. Not that I've studied things but it seems logical that throughout history when there is an invention that brings large groups of people together who, until then, had been separated the difference of cultural norms will cause great friction. The Internet opened most of the world to instant communication as it has evolved. It is easier than ever to find people who agree with you or be influenced by others so that you agree with them. The traditional societal norms are not there to inhibit that behavior as it might have done in the past. Tack on perceived anonymity and certainly the safety of distance between those attacking and being attacked and it sets the stage for the behaviors we see today. Because corporations reflect the desire of the people they pick up on it and it snowballs. So, we have sensationalistic marketing, news, etc. That grows into even worse behaviors and here we are. I just hope there is a shift because the escalation is ramping up exponentially. Imho, the only hope for a shift is for people to get outside their safety bubbles, educate themselves, know the difference between information and opinion, and avail themselves to the numerous honest news sources that are readily available on that same internet.
Hank Posted 20 hours ago Report Posted 20 hours ago 9 hours ago, LTS said: I agree. This is a natural byproduct I think of the Internet. Not that I've studied things but it seems logical that throughout history when there is an invention that brings large groups of people together who, until then, had been separated the difference of cultural norms will cause great friction. The Internet opened most of the world to instant communication as it has evolved. It is easier than ever to find people who agree with you or be influenced by others so that you agree with them. The traditional societal norms are not there to inhibit that behavior as it might have done in the past. Tack on perceived anonymity and certainly the safety of distance between those attacking and being attacked and it sets the stage for the behaviors we see today. Because corporations reflect the desire of the people they pick up on it and it snowballs. So, we have sensationalistic marketing, news, etc. That grows into even worse behaviors and here we are. I just hope there is a shift because the escalation is ramping up exponentially. I believe this is one of our biggest problems in society today. There's no accountability with anonymity. I believe people wouldn't be so nasty if their user name and avatar were what is on their driver's license, passport or state/school ID.
SABRES 0311 Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago 3 hours ago, Hank said: I believe this is one of our biggest problems in society today. There's no accountability with anonymity. I believe people wouldn't be so nasty if their user name and avatar were what is on their driver's license, passport or state/school ID. I’ve seen so many accounts where they post the weirdest stuff and have their employer, previous employers, home of record, spouse, and current city in their bio. Then you have the ones who post pictures of every second of their lives without removing the metadata. Same ones consider themselves content creators and influencers 😅 Then there’s the ones who use the same username across platforms where some require you to add your DoB. A simple open search gets you their DoB, PoB, city/state, immediate family, current/former address and phone number.
Hank Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 14 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: I’ve seen so many accounts where they post the weirdest stuff and have their employer, previous employers, home of record, spouse, and current city in their bio. Then you have the ones who post pictures of every second of their lives without removing the metadata. Same ones consider themselves content creators and influencers 😅 Then there’s the ones who use the same username across platforms where some require you to add your DoB. A simple open search gets you their DoB, PoB, city/state, immediate family, current/former address and phone number. Do you use beenverified or something different?
SABRES 0311 Posted 34 minutes ago Report Posted 34 minutes ago 57 minutes ago, Hank said: Do you use beenverified or something different? This is stuff people put on their social media accounts. Then add in platforms like LinkedIn which don't even get me started on that. My point is people put a lot of information about themselves on the internet that doesn't need to be there. For example, why would anyone put their current city and birthday on FB? And of course, as you mentioned apps like Been Verified and others that are a one stop shop. In total you have people posting crazy stuff on FB then wonder how they get in trouble when they feel the need to post their entire life on multiple platforms. My advice would be not to post every waking moment as a picture, remove the metadata before posting it, remove things like where you currently and formerly lived, and remove who you currently and previously worked for. It's not to enable these whacked out posts. Its cyber hygiene. Disable ports 22, 23, and 3389 on your home computer, disable guest accounts on your PC, only have one admin account, and don't allow visitors to connect to your router, even family. If that weird uncle has a virus or worm on his iPhone and connects to your router you better hope that free antivirus software contains it. Ok I went on a tangent there.
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