Sabres have elected arbitration with Byram

[dudacek]

3 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Sounds about right. An entire offseason of work to remain at the status quo - that’s what they went with 

Byram’s agent is maximizing his clients earnings under the system.

The Sabres are maximizing the value of the asset this year, which I thought was what you want. It means they get a motivated Byram for at least one year, maybe two, while keeping the door open for a trade.

The alternatives are taking a trade they see as not improving the team, taking picks, or letting this drag into training camp,

[PromoTheRobot]

32 minutes ago, inkman said:

Understood.  I guess I’d need to know what all the options were to understand if Adams has any idea what he’s doing.  

It could be Adams got tired of waiting for someone to make a serious offer. This Byram saga may have hindered getting one of the remaining free agent forwards signed. Good for the Sabres. They wouldn't have done this if Byram wasn't open to staying.

Edited 6 hours ago by PromoTheRobot

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, dudacek said:

Byram’s agent is maximizing his clients earnings under the system.

The Sabres are maximizing the value of the asset this year, which I thought was what you want. It means they get a motivated Byram for at least one year, maybe two, while keeping the door open for a trade.

The alternatives are taking a trade they see as not improving the team, taking picks, or letting this drag into training camp,

If only Kevyn Adams realized you can trade Byram for futures and then trade futures for what you need. But he doesn't. 

[Thorny]

Just now, dudacek said:

Byram’s agent is maximizing his clients earnings under the system.

The Sabres are maximizing the value of the asset this year, which I thought was what you want. It means they get a motivated Byram for at least one year, maybe two, while keeping the door open for a trade.

The alternatives are taking a trade they see as not improving the team, taking picks, or letting this drag into training camp,

There’s been plenty of opportunity to take a haul of futures for Byram and parlay that into improvement

@LGR4GMalways hits on it when he says Adam’s has no imagination 

Just now, LGR4GM said:

If only Kevyn Adams realized you can trade Byram for futures and then trade futures for what you need. But he doesn't. 

Wow 

The timing lol 

[LGR4GM]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

It could be Adams for tired of waiting on someone to make a serious offer. Waiting for the Byram saga to end may have hindered getting one of the remaining free agent forwards signed. Good for the Sabres. They wouldn't have done this if Byram wasn't open to staying.

Lol nonsense, or Adams is more incompetent than I thought. 

[Thorny]

Like holy crap guys he’s a terrible GM this shouldn’t have to be litigated every time: he’s doing this poorly 

He’s going to spend the summer on this charade cause he has no ability to think about anything else and then the team will be bad 

Oh, spoiler 

- - - 

they aren’t going to get a good trade, the next GM (if we ever get one) will be left with an asset that likely walks or gets little return, the Byram we have is still only an ok player that we failed to capitalize on at his highest bidding war value and only represents a reasonable course forward by being signed if improvements are made elsewhere and that’s not happening cause Adams is only capable of focusing his available brain cells on this 

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[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, Thorny said:

Like holy crap guys he’s a terrible GM this shouldn’t have to be litigated every time: he’s doing this poorly 

He’s going to spend the summer on this charade cause he has no ability to think about anything else and then the team will be bad 

Oh, spoiler 

He thinks 1 step at a time. We're on the Byram step now. 

[PromoTheRobot]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Lol nonsense, or Adams is more incompetent than I thought. 

Carry on.

[dudacek]

2 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Like holy crap guys he’s a terrible GM this shouldn’t have to be litigated every time: he’s doing this poorly 

Just making sure I’m clear, you’re saying Adams should take the best trade offer that’s on the table right now instead of trying to use the arbitration deadline to set up a pressure point in an attempt to squeeze out something better.

This not about Adams, it’s about what you think is the proper course of action.

Edited 6 hours ago by dudacek

[LGR4GM]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

Carry on.

If a guy with 12 million in cap space can't sign a mid level ufa because Bo Byram, he's ***** at his job. 

[PromoTheRobot]

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

If only Kevyn Adams realized you can trade Byram for futures and then trade futures for what you need. But he doesn't. 

Like trading draft picks? 

[LGR4GM]

Just now, dudacek said:

Just making sure I’m clear, you’re saying Adams should take the best trade offer that’s on the table right now instead of trying to use the arbitration deadline to set up a pressure point in an attempt to squeeze out something better.

Not what I'm saying. I'm good with arbitration but this could have been sorted out sooner. 

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

Like trading draft picks? 

No. Like trading prospects for a legit top 6 player

[Thorny]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

He thinks 1 step at a time. We're on the Byram step now. 

It’s the Byram summer 

What else could Kevyn Adams have even done? 

Maybe after I make this argument successfully for 5 more years it’ll catch on 

[PromoTheRobot]

Just now, LGR4GM said:

If a guy with 12 million in cap space can't sign a mid level ufa because Bo Byram, he's ***** at his job. 

Byram could get $9MM/2 years. That leaves what? $3MM? Go read your take again.

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

 

No. Like trading prospects for a legit top 6 player

Could still happen.

[Thorny]

3 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Just making sure I’m clear, you’re saying Adams should take the best trade offer that’s on the table right now instead of trying to use the arbitration deadline to set up a pressure point in an attempt to squeeze out something better.

This not about Adams, it’s about what you think is the proper course of action.

As long as you keep scoring with promo I know I don’t need to respond 

(but in seriousness I’ve explained it)

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[PromoTheRobot]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Not what I'm saying. I'm good with arbitration but this could have been sorted out sooner. 

Again, what is with this self-imposed deadline on moves? If it happened last week instead of this week, what changes?

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Again, what is with this self-imposed deadline on moves? If it happened last week instead of this week, what changes?

Didn't you just say "Waiting for the Byram saga to end may have hindered getting one of the remaining free agent forwards signed"? 

Make up your mind.

5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Byram could get $9MM/2 years. That leaves what?  $3MM? Go read your take again.

Could still happen.

No he won't. Also, man, you wanna talk about reading takes again... see what I just quoted.

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[LGR4GM]

Ftr, I think Adams picking arbitration and removing an offer sheet, while also setting a deadline basically, is smart. 

[Thorny]

9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Ftr, I think Adams picking arbitration and removing an offer sheet, while also setting a deadline basically, is smart. 

Yup, “given the circumstances” 

Tattoo it to his forehead

[PromoTheRobot]

19 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Didn't you just say "Waiting for the Byram saga to end may have hindered getting one of the remaining free agent forwards signed"? 

Make up your mind.

No he won't. Also, man, you wanna talk about reading takes again... see what I just quoted.

Hindered him by a couple days, most of which are holidays. And he was proactive by moving on, leaving the Blues holding their member.

[LGR4GM]

41 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Byram could get $9MM/2 years. That leaves what? $3MM? Go read your take again.

Could still happen.

Yea... sure he could. 

"According to AFP Analytics’ offseason contract projections, Byram is worth roughly $5.2 million on a one-year contract. That’s a useful starting point for estimating his award." https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6477038/2025/07/06/bowen-byram-sabres-salary-arbitration/

17 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Hindered him by a couple days, most of which are holidays. And he was proactive by moving on, leaving the Blues holding their member.

A couple days in UFA is what? 85% of all unrestricted free agents gone. 

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

If only Kevyn Adams realized you can trade Byram for futures and then trade futures for what you need. But he doesn't. 

I've been talking about that for years. You make multiple deals. Some teams want picks. Some teams want players. You mix and match appropriately. It's not that hard. 

This is stupid by the Sabres. This is not how you create a team where players will want to come. Byram will be 2 years and gone as a UFA. 

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43 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Ftr, I think Adams picking arbitration and removing an offer sheet, while also setting a deadline basically, is smart. 

 @LGR4GM's take here is the only reasonable response to this development: it's a smart move considering the circumstances.

We all know the hole the Sabres have dug for themselves so this scenario shouldn't be all that shocking. I got the sense from the last couple of press appearances by Adams that the team might rather keep BB unless the offer is really good and contributes to Win Mode Now. Compare the way he talked about Byram to the way he talked about Peterka leading up to the trade.

Now they stand to get BB for ~$5.5 x 2 contract and can push off trade talks to the deadline next season, where by then a motivated BB has increased his trade value.

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, PerreaultForever said:

I've been talking about that for years. You make multiple deals. Some teams want picks. Some teams want players. You mix and match appropriately. It's not that hard. 

This is stupid by the Sabres. This is not how you create a team where players will want to come. Byram will be 2 years and gone as a UFA. 

I'm good with 3 years of Byram in exchange for 6 months of Mitts. At this point, I think Byram on defense makes us better than Ryan Johnson or Bryson or more minutes for Samuelsson 

 

[Weave]

1 hour ago, thewookie1 said:

It's mostly conjecture from a combination of a lack of a trade already and the majority of interested parties being playoff teams.

Effectively as long as an offer sheet could be threatened; teams could, in theory, play off the value table and try and use prospects > picks as a way to coerce Adams.

 

 

Fan fiction.