Goaltending is still the issue...

[Shootica]

I haven't seen/heard the segment, but apparently Friedman has us as the expected landing spot for Alex Lyon.

Edited 4 hours ago by Shootica

[Turbo44]

1 hour ago, Shootica said:

I haven't seen/heard the segment, but apparently Friedman has us as the expected landing spot for Alex Lyon.

WGR is reporting it as more of a sure thing - Lyon is the guy FLA rode into the playoffs - couple of years ago. He’s a solid player who can push UPL, better than Reimer - maybe better than UPL tbh. Won’t cost much, expected contact 2 years 1.8m per year. Bunched with samsonov and Georgiev as the 2nd best goalie available behind Allen. He’s definitely my 2nd favorite behind Allen and Allen will cost between 2 and 3x, so should be a good value signing 

[Shootica]

His stats from the past couple years in Detroit are pretty unassuming but I haven't taken the time to actually watch him play.  My initial read on it is he's good enough to comfortably hold down the backup role but not someone who will prevent Levi from earning that spot.

This sits much better with me than going into the year with UPL-Levi as our two goalies.

[Turbo44]

7 minutes ago, Shootica said:

His stats from the past couple years in Detroit are pretty unassuming but I haven't taken the time to actually watch him play.  My initial read on it is he's good enough to comfortably hold down the backup role but not someone who will prevent Levi from earning that spot.

This sits much better with me than going into the year with UPL-Levi as our two goalies.

Agreed on all counts 

[LabattBlue]

Is UPL-Lyon-Levi any better than…

 

UPL-Reimer-Levi?

or

UPL-Anderson-Levi?

 

Just another roster issue that KA cannot fix. 😞

 

[Shootica]

Just now, LabattBlue said:

Is UPL-Lyon-Levi any better than…

 

UPL-Reimer-Levi?

or

UPL-Anderson-Levi?

 

Just another roster issue that KA cannot fix. 😞

 

Not substantially.  But Lyon will likely be able to handle a larger workload than those two before wearing down, which has its benefits.

[PromoTheRobot]

4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Is UPL-Lyon-Levi any better than…

 

UPL-Reimer-Levi?

or

UPL-Anderson-Levi?

 

Just another roster issue that KA cannot fix. 😞

 

Because teams don't trade good goalies. They trade ones with questions.

[Taro T]

33 minutes ago, Shootica said:

Not substantially.  But Lyon will likely be able to handle a larger workload than those two before wearing down, which has its benefits.

OR they figure that Lyon has a better chance of passing through waivers when Levi outplays him in TC than Reimer did.  So, when one of UPL or Levi spit the bit they'll be able to get him back onto the parent club in October rather than having to wait for whoever took him off the waiver wire to send him through waivers themselves in November.

Edited 1 hour ago by Taro T

[LabattBlue]

59 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Because teams don't trade good goalies. They trade ones with questions.

Then how does one find a “good goalie”?   That’s right…trade, draft or f/a.  Responsibilities of an NHL GM…assuming your team has hired a legitimate one. 😉

[DarthEbriate]

1 hour ago, LabattBlue said:

Is UPL-Lyon-Levi any better than…

UPL-Reimer-Levi?

or

UPL-Anderson-Levi?

Just another roster issue that KA cannot fix. 😞

If Luukkonen or Levi have improved their game (overall) the last couple seasons, then the answer would be yes. UPL had a regression last season for sure, but I'd take 2024-25 UPL over 2022-23 UPL (although they won his starts, they needed to score 5 to do it).

But it is crazy how Adams undervalues the goalie position on a team that's supposedly trying to get good. (And I like Levi's potential.) But he's signed experienced backups to be backups to backup-caliber goalies [at this point in their career] for his entire tenure. Adam has had 1 starting-caliber goalie in his entire tenure and he let Ullmark walk in free agency.

[Taro T]

23 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

If Luukkonen or Levi have improved their game (overall) the last couple seasons, then the answer would be yes. UPL had a regression last season for sure, but I'd take 2024-25 UPL over 2022-23 UPL (although they won his starts, they needed to score 5 to do it).

But it is crazy how Adams undervalues the goalie position on a team that's supposedly trying to get good. (And I like Levi's potential.) But he's signed experienced backups to be backups to backup-caliber goalies [at this point in their career] for his entire tenure. Adam has had 1 starting-caliber goalie in his entire tenure and he let Ullmark walk in free agency.

Again, when you realize that is EXACTLY what he had behind him the year he was a 4th liner on a SC winning squad, it makes sense that he doesn't see the need for a Hasek or a Miller backstopping the crew.

[DarthEbriate]

17 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Again, when you realize that is EXACTLY what he had behind him the year he was a 4th liner on a SC winning squad, it makes sense that he doesn't see the need for a Hasek or a Miller backstopping the crew.

And then he assistant-coached a Sabres squad that had Miller/Enroth and Vanek and...  Drew Stafford's best season, though the goals probably all came in 3 games...  the last time the Sabres made the playoffs. But they had goaltending.