Summer 2025: NHL Offseason

[DarthEbriate]

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Just imagine if the Sabres Peterka trade is 

Peterka and a 3rd for Maccelli, Kesselring, and Doan. How much better do ppl feel today getting a guy 1yr removed from 55pts and 38a. 

But... what's the condition? Does it become a first if the Leafs make the playoffs (the Sabres wouldn't be able to do something like that)?

[LGR4GM]

7 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

But... what's the condition? Does it become a first if the Leafs make the playoffs (the Sabres wouldn't be able to do something like that)?

You gonna be so mad

The pick becomes a 2029 second-rounder if Toronto makes the playoffs this year and Maccelli gets at least 51 points through the 2025-26 season.

[Taro T]

15 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Just imagine if the Sabres Peterka trade is 

Peterka and a 3rd for Maccelli, Kesselring, and Doan. How much better do ppl feel today getting a guy 1yr removed from 55pts and 38a. 

Depends.  IF that $5.5MM they netted in cap space by only getting ~75-80% of what Peterka is worth gets used to really shake up the team would rather have that original deal the way it is.

If (when) they hang on to that cap space like Scrooge McDuck holds onto a nickel, would absolutely 100% prefer this adder to the deal leaving them only a little over $2MM of wasted cap space.

Edited 11 hours ago by Taro T

[shrader]

2 hours ago, dudacek said:

What? But they have all kinds of Palm trees!

But even those are heavily taxed in California.

[LGR4GM]

Think defender values are... off

D Alexander Romanov has agreed to an eight-year, $6.25M extension with the Islanders

[DarthEbriate]

18 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

You gonna be so mad

The pick becomes a 2029 second-rounder if Toronto makes the playoffs this year and Maccelli gets at least 51 points through the 2025-26 season.

We can trade 2029 picks already?!? Adams, what are you doing? Even you might not have a job by 2029 --- let the future GM worry about that.

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Think defender values are... off

D Alexander Romanov has agreed to an eight-year, $6.25M extension with the Islanders

Someone has to get the cash in that rising cap. (And the Islanders are definitely bottoming out for a couple years, so they're banking on him staying happy throughout the rebuild. At least, I would guess that is the message.)

[CTJoe]

Here's a name we should be discussing and I don't think we have:

Mikael Granlund

Center, LW

Age: 33

2024/25:  22 goals, 66 Points

Contract Projection: 2 years, $4.975 million

-I think he'd certainly be an upgrade on our left side top 6 and he can also play center, sort of of 2025 Zucker but a bit better.  Gives us experience and wouldn't break the bank.  Not a defensive dynamo but certainly not on Petera's level. 

-I think he would outpoint Peterka while providing more accountability at a cheaper price tag. He also contributes on both special teams units and is describes as "middle-six winger on a contender who can handle top-line duty on a weaker roster,"  This has "sabres written all over it,"

-He'll have suitors, I think 2 years/$12million is a good offer.  He's coming off a contract that paid him $20miliion over 4 years.  Thoughts?

[dudacek]

7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Think defender values are... off

D Alexander Romanov has agreed to an eight-year, $6.25M extension with the Islanders

More evidence of what I was talking about in the other thread.

Also evidence that Adams wasn't necessarily wrong with the concept of the Samuelsson contract, he was wrong about the player.

 

Just now, CTJoe said:

Here's a name we should be discussing and I don't think we have:

Mikael Granlund

Center, LW

Age: 33

2024/25:  22 goals, 66 Points

Contract Projection: 2 years, $4.975 million

-I think he'd certainly be an upgrade on our left side top 6 and he can also play center, sort of of 2025 Zucker but a bit better.  Gives us experience and wouldn't break the bank.  Not a defensive dynamo but certainly not on Petera's level. 

-I think he would outpoint Peterka while providing more accountability at a cheaper price tag. He also contributes on both special teams units and is describes as "middle-six winger on a contender who can handle top-line duty on a weaker roster,"  This has "sabres written all over it,"

-He'll have suitors, I think 2 years/$12million is a good offer.  He's coming off a contract that paid him $20miliion over 4 years.  Thoughts?

Not a huge fan myself of the player, but as I mentioned in the wrong thread somewhere, he's strong in the playmaking aspect the Sabres lack up front.

[CTJoe]

4 minutes ago, dudacek said:

More evidence of what I was talking about in the other thread.

Also evidence that Adams wasn't necessarily wrong with the concept of the Samuelsson contract, he was wrong about the player.

 

Not a huge fan myself of the player, but as I mentioned in the wrong thread somewhere, he's strong in the playmaking aspect the Sabres lack up front.

What don't you like about him?  Not being a donkey, I honestly don't know him all that well with him playing out west.

[ASlugAbove]

That Maccelli deal enrages me. But hey why would we want a young promising LW back if all we had to do was include a third in JJs trade. Too easy for KA. 

[CTJoe]

3 minutes ago, ASlugAbove said:

That Maccelli deal enrages me. But hey why would we want a young promising LW back if all we had to do was include a third in JJs trade. Too easy for KA. 

I think Maccelli was in the doghouse in UTAH over effort or defense or something?  He was benched 6 games in a row late in the season: “We had discussions for what he has to bring. His A-game has not been as productive as it has been in the past. Right now we have competitiveness and guys who help us in different roles,” Tourigny said of Maccelli.

We need less of this not more. 8 goals 10 assists last year, I'll move on.

[dudacek]

14 minutes ago, CTJoe said:

What don't you like about him?  Not being a donkey, I honestly don't know him all that well with him playing out west.

Don't get me wrong; he will fill a hole in the top 6 better than the current candidates will; I'm not against adding him.

I perceive his point totals to be inflated by opportunities he wouldn't be getting on better teams and he's softer than I would like for the current state of the Sabres.

But mostly he's 33 and coming off a good season in a limited UFA market. I think he's going to both regress and command more than I want to pay.

[ponokasabre]

1 minute ago, CTJoe said:

I think Maccelli was in the doghouse in UTAH over effort or defense or something?  He was benched 6 games in a row late in the season: “We had discussions for what he has to bring. His A-game has not been as productive as it has been in the past. Right now we have competitiveness and guys who help us in different roles,” Tourigny said of Maccelli.

We need less of this not more. 8 goals 10 assists last year, I'll move on.

The Maccelli love is crazy, he is not a good player, and def not what we are trying to build here

[dudacek]

1 minute ago, ponokasabre said:

The Maccelli love is crazy, he is not a good player, and def not what we are trying to build here

He's so opposite of what this team needs.

[dudacek]

3 hours ago, ponokasabre said:

 

Lebrun apparently reporting that Andersson will only extend with Vegas.

*****, it's so easy to hate Vegas.

Sabres not among the teams listed. Ottawa, Columbus and the Kings were, but Andersson said no to an extension.

Edited 10 hours ago by dudacek

[DarthEbriate]

2 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Lebrun apparently reporting that Andersson will only extend with Vegas.

*****, it's so easy to hate Vegas.

Somewhere, Eichwalker is yelling:
I have brought peace, justice, freedom to want to be here, and Trade-Only-to-Vegas Clauses to my new Empire!

[Brawndo]

 

[DarthEbriate]

2 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

I wonder what the contract is...   2 years, $8M per, with guaranteed "season-ending surgeries on 9/28, with estimated returns on the following 4/10" of each year?

[Warriorspikes51]

18 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Lebrun apparently reporting that Andersson will only extend with Vegas.

*****, it's so easy to hate Vegas.

Sabres not among the teams listed. Ottawa, Columbus and the Kings were, but Andersson said no to an extension.

this kind of nonsense is a joke. Players dictating about only playing for a specific team. Shouldn't be allowed IMO

57 minutes ago, CTJoe said:

Here's a name we should be discussing and I don't think we have:

Mikael Granlund

Center, LW

Age: 33

2024/25:  22 goals, 66 Points

Contract Projection: 2 years, $4.975 million

-I think he'd certainly be an upgrade on our left side top 6 and he can also play center, sort of of 2025 Zucker but a bit better.  Gives us experience and wouldn't break the bank.  Not a defensive dynamo but certainly not on Petera's level. 

-I think he would outpoint Peterka while providing more accountability at a cheaper price tag. He also contributes on both special teams units and is describes as "middle-six winger on a contender who can handle top-line duty on a weaker roster,"  This has "sabres written all over it,"

-He'll have suitors, I think 2 years/$12million is a good offer.  He's coming off a contract that paid him $20miliion over 4 years.  Thoughts?

A contender will sign him....but yes this is a great idea and hadn't considered.  Thanks! 

[CTJoe]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

this kind of nonsense is a joke. Players dictating about only playing for a specific team. Shouldn't be allowed IMO

Why?   Players should have the right who the extend with no?  They may or not have a NMC but can certainly decide to negotiate a contract or not.

[Trettioåtta]

We've heard no talk of a McLeod re-signing. I wonder if he will be traded 

[dudacek]

19 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

 

I'm seeing 8 years, $6.1M?

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Trettioåtta said:

We've heard no talk of a McLeod re-signing. I wonder if he will be traded 

 

That would be a mistake.  Solid all around player. Great PKer 

9 minutes ago, CTJoe said:

Why?   Players should have the right who the extend with no?  They may or not have a NMC but can certainly decide to negotiate a contract or not.

he's saying he will only accept a trade to 1 specific team?   That's absurd.   

[CTJoe]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

That would be a mistake.  Solid all around player. Great PKer 

he's saying he will only accept a trade to 1 specific team?   That's absurd.   

Absurd - sure, his right - yes

3 minutes ago, Trettioåtta said:

We've heard no talk of a McLeod re-signing. I wonder if he will be traded 

Plenty of time to sign him, there's no urgency and he's not being offer sheeted.  

There are other more pressing needs - like stocking the EHL and AHL teams.  KA can't multi-task; he struggles to task TBH

[SabresBillsFan]

Wonder how much that leaves Florida to try to sign the Rat?