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Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

General thoughts, not specific to Doan: Life away from the game isn't easy for every player, even if they look fat, rich, and happy. Some need the structure and the focus. Competitiveness and love of being involved in the game doesn't necessarily leave players when they retire or start families. Coaching salary ain't bad. That said, some players (again, not specific to Doan) don't make great coaches, but I think if a player with Doan's demonstrated experience and leadership wanted to be involved in the game, he'd receive lots of try-it-out opportunities, including assistant coaching positions.

I think he might if Tippett asked him to.

Or Tippett as HC with Shane Doan as an assistant.

Bueno.

Lots of reasons for hate. They happened to be standing in the way of a Buffalo Sabres team that would have handily beaten the Edmonton Oilers to win the Cup. The fluke injuries combined with the bragging they did about a come-from-behind underdog victory, like it was an act of god to beat the Rochester Americans' defense in game 7. Extremely fair weather fans with very poor regular season attendance that still couldn't fill their arena with their own fans for playoff games. So many Buffalo fans bought tickets to that series that Carolina prohibited ticket sales to zip codes in WNY. Carolina fans whining and carrying on about how so many Sabres fans showed up and how hard they tailgated. It was too much for their delicate sensibilities and they labeled Buffalo as having "the worst fans." But because of their inexperience and fairweatherdom, they laughably knew nothing of NJ fans, Flyers fans, Boston fans, etc. Rod Brindamour is ugly. Like Elephant man ugly. The team has been often one of the worst teams in the NHL. But they were also the kings of a supremely ***** Southeast Division, which granted them several playoff berths. Once they were moved to the "Metro" (still hate that name), they got their ***** kicked in continuously. Until this year. ***** 'em. They rank behind other teams we hate more, but only a couple. Toronto Boston Dallas Ottawa Philly Carolina Montreal Pittsburgh

Nice article by Joe Yerdon detailing how what Dahlin accomplished this year as an 18 year old defensemen hasn't been done in a very long time: https://theathletic.com/958439/2019/05/02/how-rasmus-dahlins-rookie-season-compares-to-defensemen-who-were-previous-calder-finalists/?source=dailyemail One of the things he cites is Sean Tierney's charts of primary assists rates vs shots rates, which shows how Dahlin is already in elite company in the NHL (he was 3rd among defensemen, behind Karlsson and Burns, in primary assists per 60):

Limiting it to the big four sports: NHL: Aud, Marine Midland/HSBC/First Niagara/KBC, Wells Fargo (Flyers), Shark Tank, Staples (Kings), The Pond (Ducks), Xcel Energy (Wild), American Airlines (Stars), BB&T (Panthers) AHL: Rosemont Arena (Chicago Wolves), The Dunk (P-Bruins) ECHL: US Bank (Cincinnati Cyclones) USHL: Resch Center (Green Bay Gamblers) MWHL: Hartmeyer Arena (Madison Ice Muskies) NCAAH: Kohl Center (Wisconsin), Lynah (Cornell) ACHA: Pepsi Center (UB) MLB: Miller Park (Brewers), Dodger Stadium, Angels Stadium, Old Yankee Stadium, Qualcomm (Padres), Great American Ballpark (Reds) MiLB: Pilot Field FSL: Space Coast Stadium (Brevard County Manatees) NWL: Warner Park (Madison Mallards) NFL: Rich/Ralph, Coliseum (Rams) NCAAF: UB Stadium, Camp Randall (Wisconsin), Rose Bowl NCAAB: Alumni Arena Honorable mention: Watkins Glen

Couple of older articles surfaced on Tippett. https://nhltoseattle.com/2018/06/19/dave-tippett-hired-to-set-up-nhl-seattles-foundation/ "Tippett mentions a software system, called XOS, that he utilizes that allows him, or any coach, to watch every NHL game and break down individual players shifts, faceoffs, and shots. It’s all part of the evolution of hockey. In that same vein, hockey has seen a growth in analytics over recent years. NHL teams have hired staff to look an underlying ‘advanced statistics’ to help evaluate players. Puck possession numbers like Corsi and Fenwick have become fashionable, and caused quite a debate, in the hockey world. Tippett is on board with looking at other metrics to a degree. He likes some of it but is skeptical of others. “It’s a useful tool,” he said. “I’ve done my own analytics program since I started coaching. I had a whole system that I’ve built through that XOS. Some numbers like Fenwick and Corsi, they’re garbage. They’re garbage because they come off the stats upstairs. Every stat that I keep comes off a video that I watch, a scoring chance that I’ve watched and whose involved in it.”" http://arizonasports.com/story/438255/busting-some-myths-about-coyotes-coach-dave-tippett/amp/ "“I think it got going when I came here because we had young players who weren’t ready to play in the league but they had played in the league already,” Tippett said, referring to such players as Kyle Turris, Peter Mueller and Mikkel Boedker, who were infamously rushed to the NHL by the previous regime. “Everybody tells me ‘you don’t like young players.’ Well, at that time, we were trying to save a franchise and make it competitive again. What was happening in the past wasn’t working.” Within three seasons, Tippett took a veteran-laden team to the Western Conference Final and energized the local hockey community like never before. That team relied on a strong blue line and the goaltending of Mike Smith, so let’s start with that first myth about Tippett: that he is a defensive-minded coach who struggles with offensive players. “I think that’s a horse(expletive) rumor,” said Hall of Fame center Mike Modano, who played for Tippett in Dallas from 2002-2009. “Being around him for so long and hearing his philosophy on the game and how it’s played, I can tell you he loves nothing more than a skilled player. Like any coach, he just wants his skilled players to have a little bit of responsibility and roundness to their game, rather than being one-dimensional.” ... "Playing Tippett’s style doesn’t mean forfeiting offensive creativity. On the contrary, Domi said Tippett encourages certain players to freelance at the offensive end because those players are the ones counted on to produce the most. “We’ve had that exact conversation,” Domi said. “He’s said, ‘listen, there are times that you’re going to have to chip the puck in and push the game along a little bit and there are times when I want you to make the play. Obviously, you’re not going to make a successful play every time. You’re going to turn pucks over and I understand that but as you grow as a player you’re going to have to learn when the time is to do that. “That’s the biggest thing for me, that sense of comfort and trust he has in me and that understanding that that’s what my game is. At the same time, he’s trying to teach me when I shouldn’t be doing those things so it’s been a great relationship.” Domi’s conversations with his coach highlight one of Tippett’s greatest strengths: his ability to communicate with and relate to a wide variety of personalities. “He’s one of the more personable coaches I’ve ever had,” 23-year-old forward Jordan Martinook said. “He’s so easy to talk to and the great thing about Tip is it’s not always just about hockey. He genuinely wants to get to know you and what you’re all about. One of the main things for me is building a good relationship with my coach and I definitely have that with him.”" https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/golden-knights-nhl/coyotes-future-doesnt-include-coach-dave-tippett/ "It was eight tough years as coach for Tippett. The external issues with management, arena talk, losing Don Maloney as his general manager a year ago and working with Chayka, who is big on analytics. Plus, a team that lost its heart and soul and popular goalie when Smith was dealt June 17 to Calgary. Tippett was 282-257-83 with the Coyotes. He should have no problem finding a job."

Yep.. We saw how good this group could be when they got the confidence during the streak. They had the swagger.

So long and thanks for all the Phish.

YASSSS Agreed. Dave Tippett might be the best available coach right now, and I think he has demonstrated potential to be a great coach for this type of team. He took a Phoenix team that had missed the playoffs six straight years and took them into the playoffs immediately on a 107 point season. He coached Swedish Jesus Oliver Ekman Larsson the first seven years of his (nine year old) career. He hung tough as a dedicated coach through the years of financial mess that really started to boil over as soon as he arrived. Arizona ownership fired GM Don Maloney (who won GM of the year with Phoenix) before firing Tippett. The next GM, the NHL's youngest ever GM hired at age 26, John Chayka, fired Tippett a year later, the same offseason in which Phoenix opted not to resign Shane Doan; Phoenix has not been to the playoffs since. They will also likely never make the playoffs again, as they're being moved to the Central Division when Seattle joins the league in 2021, and will likely get their teeth kicked in by the Central in perpetuity.

Some of the larger drops are explainable. NJ made the playoffs last year and didn't this year; their ratings went down. LA Kings turned in a bad season after making the playoffs last year; their ratings went down. Similar story for Philly. Which fanbase is real trash though? Dallas Stars. They had a near-identical record to last year and made the playoffs. Their ratings went down 3rd worst at 28%.

"That's completely uncalled for, Burgundy. You know those rating systems are flawed. They don't take into account houses that have more than two television sets... and other things of that nature."

We didn't trade up or down and we had... a player... fall to us... that we wanted?

If I may, I'd like to tailor this a little, bolded.

In case there was anyone who hadn't put it together yet, Botterill was Assistant GM of the Penguins when Jacque Martin was hired as an Assistant Coach by Head Coach Dan Bylsma in 2013. Martin was moved to Senior Adviser of Hockey Operations when Mike Johnston was hired as Head Coach in 2014 and then reassigned to Assistant Coach when Mike Sullivan was hired as Head Coach in 2015, where he's been since. Penguins won the Cup with Sullivan/Martin in 2016 and 2017. Botterill, then Pens' Associate GM, was hired to the Sabres as GM in 2017. They spent four years together in the Pens' front office. It's no surprise Botterill would give him at least some consideration.

It's not the worst thing in the world if Jacque Martin goes back to Ottawa, because if he does go back to that nose-down slow motion plane crash, he must have really wanted to. Melnyk is dismantling that entire franchise, and anybody who sees that and thinks they gotta get in on that deserves the outcome. Now if it were some first-time NHL coach who needs exposure or a break, I get it. But an NHL coach with the better part of 17 seasons under their belt doesn't need that.

Martin bio from his amateur hockey school in Ottawa: http://www.jacquesmartinhockey.com/staff/jacques-martin/ "Two time Stanley Cup winner Jacques Martin is currently an assistant coach with the Pittsburgh Penguins after being hired on August 9, 2013. Martin, 65, has spent over 30 years coaching at the NHL level, serving as head coach with St. Louis (1986-88), Ottawa (1995-2004), Florida (2005-08) and Montreal (2009-12) and as an assistant coach with Chicago (1988-90) and Quebec/Colorado (1990-95). Martin also worked a dual role as general manager of the Florida Panthers from 2006-08. Martin served as associate coach for two Canadian Olympic teams in 2002 and 2006. He helped lead the 2002 squad to a gold medal in Salt Lake City. He has also won a gold medal at both the 2004 World Cup as Associate Coach and 2007 World Championships as an Assistant General Manager in Moscow. Martin, a St-Pascal, Ontario native, was a Jack Adams Award recipient as NHL Coach of the Year with Ottawa in 1998-99, and was a finalist on three other occasions (1996-97; 2000-01; 2002-03). Martin’s NHL head coaching resume includes 1,294 games, 613 wins and 12 playoff appearances in 17 seasons. He ranks 12th all-time in games coached in NHL history. Before becoming an NHL coach, Martin spent three seasons coaching in the Ontario Hockey League – two as an assistant with Peterborough (1983-85) and one as head coach with Guelph (1985-86). He led Guelph to the Memorial Cup championship during his lone season and earned OHL Coach of the Year. Martin played college hockey at St. Lawrence University as a goaltender. Jacques has two daughters, a granddaughter and 3 grandsons."

FWIW, no reason to worry... yet... ?

Was I promoted to Real Life General Manager of the Buffalo Sabres from Armchair Internet Tom*****ery Dickarounder? Narrator: He was not.

I'm still bitter about losing two game sevens against his smarmy dickbag face.

If Barry Trotz were still in Nashville and lost in the 1st round, I would be going full Russian troll farm on Preds fan websites inciting his firing so the Sabres could hire him. Laviolette? Blehhh.

TSN is parroting Burnside's note that the Sabres have "thrown Gronborg into the mix." https://www.tsn.ca/report-gronborg-a-candidate-for-sabres-1.1294376 Burnside: "...Gronborg is immensely popular in coaching circles and considered forward thinking. A source close to the Sabres indicated that, when they failed to land McLellan, Gronborg’s name was thrown into the mix, especially given the number of top young Swedes on the Sabres’ roster, including last June’s No. 1 overall pick Rasmus Dahlin. Would it be an outside the box hire for Buffalo GM Jason Botterill or any of the other GMs (assuming Edmonton gets a GM at some point) to hire from outside of North America? Sure. But it does seem like high time that coaches with different perspectives are considered as the NHL game continues to evolve."