Iron Crotch

35 years ago today...

Clearly an expansion draft hurts stronger teams more than weaker teams. Nashville has 4 excellent defensemen they had to protect, so they could only protect 4 forwards. On a really deep team that is a killer. They protected Calle Jarnkrok since his is a young center and top penalty killer with a good contract... so they lost a 30 goal winger in James Neal. Then they ended up landing Kyle Turris and Nick Bonino. Had they know that they probably would have let Jarnkrok walk and protected Neal. Hindsight is 20/20.

I though it was "better"... "stronger"... "faster"... Oh, and we gotta draft a guy named Steve Austin.

Hockey! ...although that might lead to a heart attack... or, in the case of the Sabres, depression...

Congrats. It's not commonly known (I don't think?) but alcohol consumption has been linked to several forms of cancer: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/well/live/cancer-doctors-cite-risks-of-drinking-alcohol.html

I think their used to be a finance thread on this forum... we should revive it one of these days (perhaps in the summer when there isn't much to talk about hockey-wise)

I totally agree with this and probably started much of the back-and-forth by questioning the use of "we" in reference to Vegas. My thought is "we" refers to your one true team... if that's Vegas I have no problem with that. Anyone can root for whichever team they want. I'd have been happy as hell had the Preds beated the Pens in the Cup final last year (although my "we" will always be the Sabres). I've posted it many times, but I didn't and don't like the new expansion draft rules (much different than in the last round of expansion). A new team was able to acquire too much talent, too quickly, while at the same time diminishing competition by taking a good player from them (e.g., James Neal from the Preds). And, if the argument is that this Vegas team isn't talented just disciplined defensively and well coached, then I this that says something bad about the NHL as a league. I, for one, want a league that rewards skill over "muck 'em out, ultra-defensive" play. But, that's a matter of opinion, of course.

I think he's our second best player as well. 60 point center, one of the top few faceoff guys in the league, probably our best penalty killing forward... guys like O'Reilly have a ton of value in the league. IMHO, were we to land a guy like Tavares (which history tells me will never happen) then O'Reilly is tradeable. Otherwise, he stays.

I think they should invest that $19 million in ETFs. :angel:

So to bring this back to tonight's game, it's looking increasingly like no Cup final for Ovi. Still time left, but Tampa is solid.

I had Preds season tickets for the past decade and had a hell of a fun time going to those games over the years and rooting for the Preds. Yet I'll never refer to them as "we." ….the one game per year when the Sabres were in town, I was wearing Sabres gear sitting behind the Sabres bench (i.e., not my normal seats) rooting for our vastly undermanned team of lovable losers. :) In SabresBills defense, if I lived in Vegas right now I'm sure I'd be rooting for them.

Good info. Thanks. Financial information is freely available for some of these clubs (e.g., I found Dortmund financials on Yahoo Finance). Their balance sheet looks good. Yet the keep on selling. They also continue to make stupid moves like letting Robert Lewandowski, arguably one of the top few strikers in the world, go to Bayern on a free transfer. Oof.

This American team has a few top guys (Kane, Johnny Hockey, etc.) but a lot of the best American players just didn't want to play (Kessel, Eichel, Trochek, Pavelski, Keller, Gostisbehere, Galchenyuk, Auston Matthews, Seth Jones, Ryan Suter, etc.). For what we sent to the tournament, this team did fairly well all things considered. Congrats, Modo!

You're on a Sabres board with a Sabres screen name... yet you are using "we" in reference to the Knights.

Only for, like, 24 years. (uncle) ;)

Faulk is only 26? (had to look it up) ....I'll take him on my team!

They sold Ousmane Dembele to Barcelona last year for 105 million Euros. The 3rd or 4th biggest transfer fee ever. And, they've been a profitable club for years. I think they're catering to the shareholders rather than trying to win.

Yep. My complaints are registered on this forum. I don't like that the league made the expansion draft rules so lax that new teams can instantly put together Cup-worthy rosters. It's a slap in the face to fans of franchises (like ours) that have been chasing the Cup for decades. The owners get their expansion fee pay day and the long-time fans suffer. Also (since it's late and I'm cranky) I can't stand the cheesy dinner theatre on ice pre-game show that they do in Vegas. :devil:

In this era of 150 cameras and 14 refs you'd think someone would notice that the puck was sitting in the net.

Arsenal is after Sokratis? He's my favorite Dortmund player by a mile. Dortmund is a hot mess right now. For one of the 20 richest clubs in Europe, they've been selling their best players at an alarming rate.

Tyler Myers increasingly looks like Lurch

I agree completely. But, for a hockey player who just got married and is about the start a family... and his whole family lives a little over an hour away, it might have some appeal. Or not. Who knows. Tavares is mostly likely just driving up the price for the Isles. But, we as fans at least have to dream big!

I've lived in 7 states in all four time zones. My last choice was essentially between NYC (Manhattan) and Los Angeles. Both great professional opportunities on paper... but at my age I wanted nothing to do with the traffic and pace of life that comes with those places, so I chose none of the above and ended up in a smaller, slower city... New Orleans!

Yeah, I vaguely remember reading somewhere that they're taxed differently for road game income. I could probably look it up, but it's Friday and I'm lazy!

You basically said what I said, just in different words. ;) Kane appears to prefer the big city partying lifestyle, Tavares appears to prefer a slower house in the suburbs family and dog sort of lifestyle. IMHO, Buffalo isn't a great fit for a guy like Kane. It could be a fit for a guy like Tavares (?).