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I read somewhere they will both make an appearance before the end. I suspect it'll be a flashback type scene. Maybe Gene thinking back to how he got there or some such thing.

I'm not sure I'd agree with that list entirely. It's hard to measure the value of big minute D men against forwards and their production. Seth Jones for example might be overpaid, but he's probably more important to Chicago than Jonathan Toews at this point. Erik Karlsson certainly hasn't given the Sharks his money's worth but I'd disagree on Zach Werenski. I know Shea Weber's on LTIR but doesn't that count as a bad contract still? Carey Price value questionable at this point too. Unless he turns it around this year, that curly haired dude, what's his name............Jack something or other, plays for Vegas, his 10 million is a pretty bad contract too. Jakub Voracek would be another bad one imo and so would Oliver Ekman Larson. There are others. Skinner imo will continue to be an undisciplined streaky scorer who may go through prolonged slumps where he is a liability to the team and may also have hot streaks where he scores more goals than his mistakes cost. Hopefully the scoring outweighs the dry spells. It's still a dreadfully bad contract though, but maybe at this point not the worst in the league any more.

It wasn't "filler" imo because it was fun and entertaining. Yes, it was a stand alone episode, probably not necessary, but it did link to the early shots in the series and it was simply just a fun mini heist movie with comic overtones. I enjoyed it for what it was. My guess is we see the Bryan Cranston cameo soon, if not next.

Absolutely. He's a third or fourth liner for sure. Bit of an agitator edge, some skill, but likely nothing above that role. I'd place him roughly equal to Zemgus (in terms of on ice skill, not character.) But lots of teams want guys like that to fill out the bottom of their roster. I mean come on, if Evander Kane can get adulation and big bucks after all his crap, surely a guy found not guilty of one thing deserves a try out somewhere no?

No, not saying that, but what other absolute standard do we have to go by? Not every accusation is legit. Many are, maybe most are, but sometimes the lines are blurry or vague. We can't just decide without the facts or being in the courtroom ourselves. We just get media reports that can be skewed. there's no way to know. So you don't like a guy, he's not on your team, it's easy to judge him negatively. Let me put it to you this way, if Rasmus Dahlin was accused of rape but was found not guilty in the trial would you want him shipped off to Russia?

You're not wrong, and the world has definitely changed. Back in my day I remember my first summer job in an office (Stelco in Hamilton) the place was filled with flirting, sexual comments, affairs at lunchtime, all kinds of comments and opinions that would get you fired in a heartbeat today. That's where I met Dave Andreychuk's dad, and man, some of the things he said!!!!!!!! All considered humour or acceptable in some form or other at the time. locker rooms in that era where far far worse. It was all just "boys will be boys" back then and Hockey culture has pretty much retained an element of that. They just hush it up better than most. So anyway, in today's world it's all changed and Hockey Canada has to change as well. I am certainly not against these kids being watched closely and chaperoned and so forth. A lot of them are thick as posts, dumb jocks, immature, and they need guidance well into adulthood. Absolutely. They won't like it though, and that's all I'm saying. So in the end I'm not sure where the money and the power fall into place. If you're a star prospect and you'll end up being a multi million NHL star are you going to step in line or are you going to do whatever you want? And considering all the money involved how motivated will they be to keep him in line? Or will they just work harder at covering anything that happens up? Money always rules in the end doesn't it?

I don't want to defend the guy (I've heard from reliable sources he's always been an arrogant a-hole) but the justice system is what it is and if a person is found not guilty we can't just go on believing what we want to believe. imo if he's good enough he should get an NHL shot. If we move into a world where any accusation leads to a conviction then pretty soon no young people will ever have sex again. Either that or they will have to sign nuptial contracts before every encounter.

Riiiiiiight..........cause he had that on his resume when they drafted him. Sure. Also, whether we want to believe it or not, there is a legal system, it went to trail, he was found not guilty. So he's not a rapist like it or not. Bunch of ex-Sabres on that world junior team remember. Pots calling kettles and all that.

I haven't had a Cinnabon in ages.

So to sum the article, it basically says don't tank and draft better. Since it's from a pro Detroit perspective it really just says don't make the mistakes the Sabres made. I think KA/The Sabres know they shouldn't make the mistakes the Sabres made as well. It just took them 10 years to realize it.

Oh I'm not saying it wouldn't be a good idea, it's just something that hasn't been done, they've been treated as free adults, like me and you, and I think there'd be push back from the players if they were not given freedom. The team or the members of the jury? Not sure what this means.

and? That doesn't mean anything unless they've played to a level where they demand a raise by NHL levels. There's plenty of cap room.

Not proven at the NHL level yet. If JJ bumps Asplund down to the 4th line so be it, but right now Asplund is one of the better 2-way players on the team and should be on whatever our top checking line is. As I've said elsewhere, I think Asplund-Kadri-Cozens could be a phenomenal 2 way line. If you don't add Kadri well, I guess Cozens stays at center and the winger is Vinnie or Kyle and the line is just meh, maybe, maybe not.

Oh I agree, there's always double speak these days and you can't trust anybody so he might just be saying it so that fans don't hate him for his year there and he doesn't look like a villain. He's smarter than Eichel 🙂 He at least doesn't hate the idea though. Calgary fans have to take that on faith at this point and hope. We, as a franchise, have to start winning so that players stop putting us on 10 team no trade lists.

On a semi related note, Virtanen just got off in his trial. Jury found him not guilty. As the story went the woman in question had a few memory lapses on events so Jake's lawyer stressed the "inconsistencies" and she hadn't fought back enough to convince the jury she wasn't a willing participant. In these cases, I suspect they will be even harder to "prove" with the time that's gone by, but that videotape is still the main piece of evidence.

The owner DID spend money in the past, and the team sucked, and then he hired KA and we became a cap floor team barely scraping together dead contracts to reach that floor so is he still a guy willing to spend? It's a valid question. There is no cap crunch coming. If Thompson has another good season he's in line for a solid payday. Nobody else has shown signs of getting a big contract yet. There's no crunch, and a Kadri deal could be structured to end around the time there might be a cap crunch which is in about 5 years. Not now.

The problem is at what age do you no longer need constant supervision and does that ever stop? I remember back when the Ben Rothlisberger rape thing came out there were a lot of Steelers fans asking why don't these guys have chaperones/drivers/whatever you want to call them keeping an eye on them and their "parties". Those were grown ass men. So I guess what I'm saying is their age is not an excuse. Calling them "YOUNG" just doesn't cut it. Rape is rape at any age and there's no excuse, none. Period. Full stop. That stuff just has to end. We all know there's been tons of it in the past and all kinds of disgusting hazing and other rituals and there is no excuse for any of it any more. It's 2022, and it's time for a reckoning.

Calgary might come out of this okay in the long run. Seems the players they got don't hate the idea of staying in Calgary, somewhat like the Eichel/Tuch scenario. https://www.nhl.com/news/flames-huberdeau-open-long-term-contract/c-335088508

Absolutely, and I'm sure many teams were/are leery of signing him for that very reason, but in our case it ultimately comes down to whether or not the owner is still willing to spend money to win. It appears he is not. I have no doubt it's very likely signing Kadri would in a strict sense be an overpayment. So depending on how you look at it, in a point per game calculation or something it might not be great value, BUT if he makes the TEAM substantially better and we win more games as a result then the money is well spent even if his numbers are not up to contract value. I personally think that would happen. A lot more wins. Remember, if you keep your top line as it was Thompson-Skinner-Tuch and they keep producing offense, you add Kadri as your #2 center along with maybe Cozens and Asplund(?) you have a really good two way shut down line that you can play against other teams top lines. Then you get to throw out some sort of high powered offense on a third line of say Mitts, Olofsson, Quinn or Krebs or whoever wins the job that gets favourable match ups and isn't struggling trying to be a #2 line. The roster is simply a lot better and it's a lot easier to match other teams strengths and weaknesses. In year 5 of his contract you might be overpaying a 4th line center, but ultimately that would also mean you're a real cup contender.

They're not ALL going to work out. That's unrealistic. If it happened, well great, too many good players what a dilemma . More likely some will be good, some will need more time, some will become marginal players or role players, and some will be AHL only. I really don't think we are overflowing just yet, more like just back to what is normal.

Krebs won't be moved for a few years even if he's not good because of the optics. He will get the longest and biggest chance to make his mark. But none of those 3 get moved any time soon imo. I still believe Girgensens and Okposo will be moved at the deadline if we are not in playoff contention. I know some of you want him as captain. I still think this though.

I know some people here hate the guy but it would be a smart move and make us a real contender imo. It would also signal to the league and other free agents next year that we are a serious team again. We have the cap space for sure. You spend big on him for 5 years and his deal expires right around the time you need your Power/Quinn/Peterka/whoever money. You bring in Kadri this year. Next year you add in Kane and a real goalie if Comrie doesn't measure up . Everything can change quickly and it can begin here. Past history however makes me think he's just using us as a negotiating ploy or a back up plan and at best it'll be another Taylor Hall situation.

Saw this crazy story about Riley Cote in Rolling Stone today. Fascinating read: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/psychedelics-brain-injury-sports-riley-cote-1367947/

Technically no, there isn't. Generally sexual abuse cases are not tried after 5 years and they are almost impossible to prove after lengthy amounts of time BUT there is no statute of limitations and since this is high profile and in the media spotlight charges are possible. I suspect that that would hinge on the videotape and if they have it though.

If your top pairing has Montour in it, you are NOT winning the cup. If that's their D, it's not just weak, it's absolute crap. Going to have to win games 7-6 and Bob gonna have to Bob around a whole lot.