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I honestly don't remember when we were last on the right side of a blow out like that. I think it's been a long time. So good it almost got boring at the end. Another thing I haven't felt in a while - bored by it being too easy. (but really just a little) Beat Pittsburgh and I might start to believe.

These are the sort of games the team simply should win. There is no reason not to be better than them.

I don't disagree with this in general, but I have one basic issue. The usage of this term "the plan". What exactly is the plan? Is there a timeline? How long is the plan? When do you get to say it's going too slowly or alternately it's ahead of schedule? What is it measured against? I see guesses and assertions but nowhere do I see the actual "plan". Most specifically, if the "plan" involves winning, how on earth can you logically say not getting a solid NHL goalie in place is a good "plan"????

Definitely could be.

Not ALL.

I actually spent some time looking and failed to find it BUT you guys should all go back several years and look at some of your comments. The enthusiasm for the upcoming season threads are hilarious in hindsight. I think my favourite comment of all was " Nylander and Mitts seem to have a little bit of chemistry. " from 2018. I won't post links to hilarious comments so as not to single out or embarrass people still here but really, go back and look at some of the stuff from 3 or 4 or more years ago. It'll be humbling and if you take it the right way, hilarious.

What I'm saying is I'm not going to anoint people, they have to earn it. For example, right now the kid line is showing signs of being very good, but the sample size is way too small and all the bandwagon jumpers proclaiming the job as finished (only the third line needs fixing now) could hurt themselves falling off real soon. Let's see how they do against pittsburgh for example. Dominating San Jose this year isn't a huge accomplishment.

I forgot, Moulson was also signed to be a 20-30 goal winger. There were many bad signings and we all know it failed miserably but you can see the theory and idea. Two top centers, two checking centers, gritty bottom end, puck moving D men paired with tougher stay at home types and a budding star goalie. Veterans and kids. No need to go over how and why it failed, but when it was first assembled hopes were VERY high.

No.

Yes, in hindsight, but on paper it appeared that we had assembled 2 lines at that time with two top centers. You can't measure the failure against that any more than you can assume that we have 2 solid top lines now. Kid line had a good week with Cozens having a breakout week. Will this continue for all 3? No idea. Not to mention Skinner could crap out at any time, one never knows. We MIGHT have the makings of 2 top lines, and I hope we do, but it's far too early to say.

It's unreasonable either way as it was years ago but whatever the case, just assume I was on crack and hallucinated it. That's fine.

Cocky is fine, but it can be arrogance. The question is what happens when adversity hits. As for snarl, I don't mean bad temper (Krebs seems to have a bit of that but it's not helping him) but more of what Dahlin has developed. Give me a shot or a hit on a shift and I'm going to give you a harder one first chance I get. That sort of thing.

That's not wrong. So send him to Rochester, just like they sent Thompson.

I remember reading it and laughing. I know it was somewhere on Sabrespace but it's funny you took the time to dig. I feel happy that you consider arguing with me that important. Lol, maybe I hallucinated it.

lol, be reasonable man, it was YEARS AGO. Prove me wrong. or don't.

All I'm saying is I don't believe until I see it at an NHL level. Someone says "problem will be solved next year, next year we will have.............eg. Rosen" I'm simply saying problem MIGHT be solved, MIGHT NOT. No guarantees prospects become what we hope. That's all.

I don't equate them either. We simply could use a little more snarl on this team and if Peterka could add that to the line it would be an even better unit.

Well on paper I think they did, but in hindsight of course they were not good or we wouldn't have been where we were would we? Kane was certainly supposed to be a top winger. In a way he was. When Okposo was brought in he was supposed to be a 20-30 goal a year guy. I don't remember the line combinations but we had enough (supposed) talent at the time to say 2 top lines. Losing games we juggled personnel a lot. Cozens is getting good, but he's not ROR yet.

Did they not have 2 legit lines when Eichel and O'Reilly were here with Kane and Reinhart as well. I think they did. It was different, but I think those lines were "legit" regardless of how that ended. The optimism is fine, and I hope the believers have it right, but we aren't really beating the good teams yet. We have a long way to go. We kind of have half a team, which is better than what we had before.

Unless something drastically changes it's going to be Beniers. Defensemen have a hard time beating forwards in any event and Beniers, for the bright and shiny new franchise is the kind of things the league likes. Power is a different type of player, but as much as Quinn and Peterka have shown growth and promise lately they are not in Beniers class yet. Not even close.

Krebs isn't exactly going to be a "kid" in 1-2 years. imo Krebs will never make it as the kind of center he was in junior. He either learns and develops into a good role player or he will be an AHL perennial. all we need is............that's actually quite a lot and are the very things I identified back in free agency. Those are the holes we didn't fill, and they are big holes.

Garbage - meh - and future Swiss league superstar. Sure, why not.

To the first bolded comment, of course I give him time. No GM should be judged until his draft choices show themselves to be good ones or crap ones. Anything less than 3 years on a GM is unfair. My main point is this (as clear and simples as I can put it). The deconstruction was necessary. he did it. Check. BUT the rebuild does not have to be just the draft and a spendthrift multi year plan just to compete. imo they (intentionally?) squandered an opportunity to be better and actually compete this year and not just be a learning/training camp for the future. I fully expect after this year, sometime before next year, they will make statements that "this is the year" and they will try to compete for the playoffs properly next year. At least I hope so. To the second bolded line, Mitts and VO really cannot play in the NHL.

You can try it, but it's not really any different.

Can you access the old threads from years ago when Mitts first joined the Sabres? If so you'll find it. If you expect me to try to find that, well sorry, I have a life. Not an especially busy one, but busy enough not to try to do that. Exactly. Which is my point. You just argued what I've been saying all along. Prospects are just prospects.