PerreaultForever

The team should be better so VO is now, what Vinnie Hinostroza was last year and if there is no possible trade his career will follow a similar path. If Quinn wasn't out I'd guarantee he wouldn't be in the starting line up come game 1 but that injury does provide a possible temporary spot. I'd rather rotate rookies through that roster spot but they may let VO have it for a while. Absolutely guaranteed he will not be a Sabre in 2024-25.

If they were moving him now yes, most definitely, and their fans would still be pissed. If they were having to move him in the last year of his deal however, then it gets trickier and it might not be much more than 4 firsts or the equivalent.

Of course there's trouble. Leafs let him go past the point of his no trade kicking in and so now he can hold them hostage and force them to make him the highest paid player in the league (which apparently is his ask) and if they don't, he can just walk like Tavares did to the islanders. Don't forget, Nylander is holding them hostage again wanting over 10 million apparently. They are screwed.

So your contention then is that the league would influence/alter/fix? any potential trades involving McDavid? In other words it's all rigged? I mean if that was true, the league would never have allowed him to go to Edmonton in the first place. he would have gone to Toronto or perhaps Philly right away.

McDavid in Vegas made me think it goes something like: Vegas trades Eichel to Boston for idk DeBrusk, Carlo, a bunch of future first or second rounders. Vegas then flips DeBrusk and like all their first round picks for the next 5 or 6 years for McDavid, then Eichel and McDavid meet in the Stanley Cup final. NHL has so many storylines they don't know how to deal with them all. Meanwhile, Matthews is the highest paid player in the NHL playing in the dessert and losing in the first round of the playoffs every year until he retires. and after all that, it simply shifts to Michkov vs, Bedard like Ovi/Crosby. and the beat goes on...........................

and Messier. Just saying. Messier won without Gretzky. The reverse never happened, as great as Gretzky was. Philly would snap up McDavid if it was ever possible but I doubt he leaves Edmonton. I think Matthews leaving the Leafs might be more possible. As well as Eichel eventually ending up in Boston.

That's true.. My point was really that neither is all that in demand and the fear of EITHER being snapped up on waivers is perhaps not worth having. COULD they get snapped up, sure. Nobody thought Fitz would be taken by Florida and there he was (sucking) in the playoffs for them a little so you never know. If the timing is bad and some team has run out of healthy goalies it's possible. But are teams crossing their fingers waiting and hoping we waive UPL (or Comrie), well I really doubt it.

huh. I do not see this guy making the NHL ever, but you never know.

idk, but if UPL got waived vs. Comrie got waived which would be more likely to be picked up (if either)? Comrie has already been an NHL back up. He might actually be the one more likely picked up. If either.

EXCELLENT. Perfect contract length for us to trade for him at the deadline in a year and half for our playoff push and the start of their rebuild.

I get that, but what makes you so sure he would have been scooped up? Maybe we made him a "name" with all the NHL time, but prior to that, when he should never have been called up at all, he wasn't exactly a big name that NHL GMs were lining up to steal away. He was a nobody outside Buffalo.

https://www.buffalohockeybeat.com/after-long-benching-sabres-victor-olofsson-has-uncertain-future/ It's POSSIBLE he wasn't/isn't on the trade block, but the rumours of that have certainly run rampant and it makes sense after he was a healthy scratch when the team was actually trying to win and make the playoffs.

No, because I do not think VO gives us a better chance to win now. I would rather rotate rookies for Quinn but ideally I would have preferred we pick up a solid 2 way forward but since we didn't, go with this supposed brilliant prospect pool. It's not like Quinn was a game changer last year. He was inconsistent as you can be and most of his projection is based on the future potential, just like the kids in Rochester. VO gives us a better chance to lose.

This is the one. Impossible to beat this one. Hard to argue with Hasek either.

Which is why he never should have been playing NHL games yet. He needed (and still needs) lots of one on one goaltending coaching and development. Adin Hill is 27 and spent years in the AHL. That's the path that UPL should have been on. UPL is now 24 and if he'd been brought along properly he should just now be poking around the edges of maybe making an NHL roster. As is we set him back and he hasn't properly worked on his weaknesses and as such MAYBE if he's sent back down and coached and he works on things then MAYBE he can be our Adin Hill when he's 27 (if needed). If we don't bring in a veteran goalie there's a good chance we ruin Levi as well. Our plan appears to be a repeat of Philly's mistake with Hart. It's a risky and probably really dumb plan.

Which is exactly where the good D comes in. If you have one, that second shot doesn't occur. Which is exactly what I said. No, somebody else might get to say that but not you. You post all your snark and sarcastic memes and all your other BS so you don't get the high road unless you start to earn it.

I don't want a guy I benched, made clear he wasn't wanted, and had on the trade block back in the line up. I'd rather use Rousek, Kulich, etc. imo if VO is still on this team in October, it's a fail for KA.

You like to twist words and make unfounded claims don't you. Show me where I "disliked" Levi? Show me. Matter of fact, if you go right back to the Reinhart trade, you will see I was one of the first (if not the first) to say it was a great trade and Levi would be a star. Go look.

I don't see any similarity to Mitts at all. Granato made VO a healthy scratch. He has no future here.

Oh yes I know, he "found god" like so many others. But did he really change or was that all necessary PR? Look, most, if not all, of the hockey players who have been involved in less than upstanding behavior in their younger days eventually mature into men and I'm sure some of them regret things from their youth, but that doesn't change the things they did. My point is simply that when it comes to star players, fans are very forgiving and very quick to make excuses or believe the party line. I will be surprised if anything comes of this in the end. It'll get brushed under and whitewashed as always.

Okay, so change my comment from "not a single person" to "almost no one"

That delayed deal with the Canes is dead. DeAngelo bought out and waived by the Flyers.

Yup, (and I know you were being a bit of a smartass but that's okay) and athleticism is something a smaller goalie is going to need to succeed. Levi has that. Whether or not the size will be a factor (or how big of a factor) remains to be seen. I do remember a few shots going in up and over the shoulder but the sample size isn't large enough yet. Ullmark's size definitely helps him, and it was an inability to move fast enough that made him look pretty meh in the playoffs when the speed of the game was at it's maximum. It's still a point of contention as to whether that was due to nagging injury or if he's just not that good at that level. Hill, on the other hand, wasn't a particularly athletic guy but his size making the first save, and Vegas' D eliminating the 2nd shot made him more than adequate for winning the cup. Point being, if our D was really good (or gets really good) maybe you can even get away with UPL and he looks adequate with his size but until that time, he's going to look good and then bad at different moments. Levi? Too soon to know. I have hope for him, but would I rather have a good big goalie? Absolutely.

Interesting you bypassed the fact that Levi (at 6') is smaller than all of them. Can a small goalie be good? Sure. Does a big goalie have an advantage? Absolutely.

Then why doesn't a single person here want him in the starting line up?