PerreaultForever

Too many Cowboys fans in this thread. You all must leave 🙂

We do? What exactly? Prove it.

Those two things don't directly correlate either. Did you know that incidences of rape have a direct correlation to ice skate sales? True fact. Stats are a funny funny thing.

I grew up in Hamilton and am out on the west coast now so I have no geography holding me to Buffalo. The Hamilton Tiger Cats were my first team (CFL football) and that spilled over to the Steelers in the 70s because they were also a Steel City and wore the same colours. Also, at that time, both had tough D identities which reflected the city mindset. Got into hockey slowly and it was Bruins first (same colours again and Bobby Orr and they were not the Leafs or Habs) and then local tv from Buffalo got me hooked on the Sabres, French Connection. I did have a sympathic leaning towards the Bills and did want them to beat Dallas etc. Really liked Bruce Smith and Tasker and some of their other grittier football guys. but my allegiance in other sports drifts towards teams that play the way I like or think is the better way to play. These days I'm starting to think I should have ditched the Sabres when I moved west some 22 years ago.

I do remember in his early years here he stated something about liking fast wide open games with lots of goal scoring. How extreme that position is idk, but it has been the idea we've followed to a large extent. As well, I'm not sure he hates fighting, but I doubt he's a fan of it. But that's only a side issue. Not the main point.

That does NOT mean we are playing better D. It can simply mean opposing teams are playing more defensively against us. Also, it is a copycat league and there is more defensive hockey all over because of Florida vs. Vegas in the final. Quite a few teams playing tighter and more disciplined hockey than last year. The paradigm has shifted back a little.

Where is the evidence of the bolded part? I certainly have not seen it.

They are easier to find but for some reason we don't want them (TP) . There have been guys waived this year that are better than what we have. Steen on Boston's 4th line for example has been waived twice. There's lots of options if you want to go find them. KA doesn't cause Terry don't like that type of hockey. This is the conclusion I have come to. Nothing else makes sense as KA knows better inside. His own personal experience as a player is right there as an example.

What is this ANOTHER KA post? It's a good argument EXCEPT (to the bold) Rangers and Panthers are doing very well (1st and 2nd in their divisions respectively) and Leafs and Carolina are still in playoff positions and then there's Boston to consider further. Remind me, how many of their own draft picks did Vegas have winning the cup? (I'll wait..............) Those are the cold hard facts, not some half baked theory of development. You do realize, at this point, that we traded Eichel for Tuch. Now I like Tuch. I'm glad he's a Sabre and imo he should have been named captain before this season BUT until the picks actually become something, all we got worth talking about was Tuch. Ponder it. We've become nothing more than a development/farm team for the rest of the league.

So what is Boston Mordor then? Is Marchand Sauron or Gollum? Seems to me Eichel left the shire and got the ring to rule them all.

Kulich and Rosen aren't bottom end role players. They are top end prospects. I'm not 100% sure about Kulich but Rosen would be absolutely useless lined up against 4th liners and the usual physicality they bring. Murray is a big nothing. He doesn't use his size so he's useless at the NHL level.

i, 2 doesn't matter. What matters is how you line up against the opposing match up. They want to roll 4 lines and this roster makes that a stupid philosophy. So imo you want Benson against Perfetti and not Connor.

Ya I don't buy this block the prospects thing. Aren't you supposed to provide competition and make the road more of a struggle they have to fight through and earn their spots? Isn't that part of development as well. Not to mention veteran leadership. I don't understand their whole approach, and it's definitely not what other teams do.

What about people saying the same thing year after year about their team and unfortunately being right about it year after year, what do those people do? When is the fracture point final? Or is this hockey hell?

We need solid role players in the bottom 6 and as I understand it, we don't have any in Rochester. We don't have any anywhere.

They beat Boston in OT. They beat Carolina, Pittsburgh and Vegas. I'm not trying to suggest the Ducks are actually any good. They're not. But they were expected to be bad and in full rebuild. We were expected to push for a playoff spot. So scoffing at the Ducks when your own team is floundering is just plain dumb.

One of the problems is likely that all or at least most of these better veteran guys have modified no trade clauses and I'd bet anything Buffalo is near the top of most of those lists. Only Arizona and some of the colder Canadian spots might be higher for some. Not sure the Sharks have anyone worth looking at but I'm sure they'd be happy to deal any older veteran as they are pure tank.

No it's not but he was laughing at them having Lybushkin and they're just about the same as us and slightly better right now. Right now I think the only team we can truly laugh at is the Sharks. Even the Flyers and their dinosaur coach are looking better (beat Carolina solidly tonight).

Ducks (picked to be near last) 9-7, Sabres (picked to finally turn it around) 7-8-1. Keep laughing.

Didn't Chechmanek back up Hasek when the Czechs won the gold? My memory is vague.

Wasn't it the Caps farm team that knocked Rochester out last year? I might have that wrong but I think so. Washington is playing to their identity. They added this guy cause I guess Wilson wasn't enough. https://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/n268050 But of course, Sabres have more talent and a deeper prospect pool.

People who think this way are not looking closely at HOW we are losing games and at the persistent and recurrent flaws. Right now we are in no way even close and are likely to finish substantially lower than last year. How low will be determined by how many of the iffy teams also crash and burn. This team has no chance playing this way and is much more likely to go on a losing streak than a winning one.

Why would you think a new owner would move them? It's a proven solid hockey market when it's a decent franchise. People will cross the border and there's a lot of hockey fans in the area. They just need an owner that will put a good experienced hockey guy in charge of things and let him run with. Or heck, move it, and then get an expansion team and start over. The right way. Really doesn't matter.

Absolutely correct. Girgs is the only one worth a 4th line spot. Overpaid for what he is but the best of that bunch. That's 4th line too. 3rd line for any of them is just a joke. I said KO signing was a horrendous mistake. Sentimental, but a mistake none the less. The bottom of the roster is just garbage. Won't happen. Not with TP in charge. Not a chance.

@Thorny is correct. There are many ways to build a team but for success you need a solid veteran core to build around and then you ease your rookies in around that. If you create and rely on a young core it takes a lot of time for them to become veterans (so to speak) and they lack the leaders around them to learn from so their development is even slower and perhaps incomplete. Everything falls onto the coaches for leadership so at bare minimum you need a dominant figure as coach that they will all look up to and willingly learn from. You need to look at the teams jumping over us in terms of rebuilds and consider their plans and rosters if you want proof. Compare the Montreal Boston game to the Buffalo Boston game. Watch the difference in terms of HOW they played them more than the result. Now Montreal might falter this year and we might even end up ahead of them but you can see their rebuild is on the right track and if things continue the way they are without question they will be ahead of us soon, if not already. There are other examples. It really isn't that complicated, but TP wants fast and lots of goals. TP wants people who do what he says. TP has ruined this franchise. TP needs to sell the team and go watch tennis games when he's not lounging on his beds of money in Florida. Unless TP changes, it'll never change in Buffalo.