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But to do that they have to win and improve from their current win percentage. The season is already 1/4 over and do you have faith that they will be substantially better than they have been? Because they will have to be.

You can argue about who you are "building around" and you place your "core" parameters around less or more people and all of it is just circular and meaningless. If you trade for a guy who is signed until 2030 you clearly have him in your plans that is irrefutable. If I was GM I'd build my team quite differently. You probably would too and you'd probably do it differently than me and that's why teams are different, because GM's differ the same way. Me, for example, I start with the goalie.

I don't think it "shows us" anything but it was a career highlight goal for him. I doubt you ever see him do it again. It was a nice play though for sure.

that implies an extension.

That's not what you were arguing though. You took issue with my comment of building around him. If he's top 6, you are building around him. There's no need to argue just for the sake of arguing.

Reading stuff on twitter about Tuch's wife being from BC. That could be a thing. Byram is another name they apparently like. Quinn for Power as the primaries? That would interest me depending on details. My dream, Quinn Hughes, Petersson and Garland for Quinn, Norris, Power. Tuch (and whatever picks/prospects make that happen). I'd like to keep Tuch, but I don't want to pay him 8 years at 11.5 as rumored and I don't want him gone for nothing. Quinn, Power and Norris are all players who disappoint me regularly in one way or another so any of them can go and I'd welcome it. If it's me I'm bumping Krebs out of the line up. Norris is 2C, McLeod goes back to 3C and Kozak stays on the grind line. When Kulich comes back something else will have to give.

Except Norris doesn't have a broken bone, he has a bum shoulder and now (possibly) a groin injury (or something similar since it's mid body off a face off). One good hit into the boards and that shoulder is gone.

Excuse me, but it's not an "exotic notion". He has an 8 million cap hit until 2030. You trade for that you obviously have him pegged in to be part of your top 6 core.

I'm not taking a sub par offer but I don't have to win the trade either. If the on ice team can get better than it's good for me regardless of what the on paper trade looks like. I don't think they need Norris and I don't think they need 3 goalies so I'm looking at a move there. I also have to have a firm Tuch plan. make a final offer and see what he says. Then act accordingly as you cannot let him walk for nothing like Ullmark. It's scientific and medical. Injured areas are never the same as they were.

I don't disagree with most of that. There were a few early games that had me thinking, hmmm, are they getting it this year? But I didn't want to get too excited and then they started losing in OT etc. and things started to look the same. I still don't see enough fight on the boards and winning puck battles to take them seriously but it does look more like an actual hockey team. It would be nice if they could win some face offs too.

I got really bandwagonesque when we had that win streak with Eichel-Skinner-Reinhart tearing it up. That was the last time. Last few years I've settled into a prove it and show me kind of view. Just don't trust this team to show up every night. It's been calming since so far it's been constant.

True, but each injury makes your body more prone to more injury. We will see what happens I guess. As for the chatter, not surprised. One, I think there are always vultures looking to pick at the carcass. Two, I think it likely some think they can get the better of Adams. Three, there's Tuch, too many goalies, too many bodies period. I suspect there's a few teams looking at this or that and seeing what the asks would be.

It can, but that win streak has to happen. In this compressed schedule, relative to other teams, they are actually healthier now than some so there is a chance to move up but they have to show up every single night to have a chance at making that happen. Cautious optimism is the best i can do.

We are going to have to agree to disagree here. First look at how much they are paying him. next look at how little he plays. It just doesn't make sense to build around him. I mean look at it this way, if by chance they get good enough to compete for the playoffs or even in the playoffs, do you want their success to rest on this guy who is one hit away from out for 6 months? I wouldn't. But let's leave it at that. If Adams is still GM he obviously won't trade him because he will want to validate his own decisions.

I say this every year but few people listen. Don't look at the points, look at the win percentage. That's the stat that matters for making the playoffs. Right now they are 7th from the bottom of the league. Third from the bottom in the conference. Second from the bottom in the division. So it's basically exactly the same as every year.

I disagree. Even if he brings some great hockey I just don't think he will stay healthy so building around him leads to problems. You'd be better off shedding that salary so you can pay Tuch or whoever else. He won't stay healthy. Guaranteed.

Honestly, I kind of did forget about Kulich at the moment I wrote that. He's not that vital. Regardless of his goal I still don't like Quinn and would give that spot to Kulich when he comes back. I prefer the 2 way game of Kozak to the pure offense of the third line they went with before. Alternatively just get rid of Krebs. He's pretty useless too. If there was a way to trade Norris I'd do it now if I was the GM. There likely isn't though.

This one was more meaningful to me than the Chicago game. A couple more and I might start to believe. Cautious optimism. Zucker has made a big difference. The lines look more balanced now. If Norris ever comes back Östlund goes back down. Kesselring for Bryson, there's your full team. No idea what the goalie plan is as always but UPL made some good stops today. I'd be happy to never see Greenway again tbh. I don't know what happened to Samuelsson over the summer - maybe his dad told him he was a disgrace to the family name - but he's not the same player at all. He finally looks like the solid defender we wanted/expected and is kind of giving us what a lot of us hoped Kesselring would bring after the trade. In any event his play has changed things a lot. The biggest impacts on this team over last year are Doan being able to play top 6, Kozak being solid bottom 6, and most of all Samuelsson being solid. Refs were far too involved in this game and the Benson no goal was bs but there are tons of these every season, or even every week. It's just garbage but it is what it is and they overcame it so whatever. I've seen Carolina play better than that but all the same Sabres beat them today plain and simple. They were the better team. Now we see how long this lasts.

That's well done. Already outdated though. They traded Dennis Gilbert back to Ottawa.

Terry will be happy. One less player to pay.

Exactly. Look who is captain in Anaheim. It's not a young star, it's Gudas. The very definition of a grizzled vet. Their D still needs some work, but they are already a better balanced roster.

No doubt. After all these years I do watch with a very critical eye. Remember when they blew Toronto out? What did that amount to? Nothing. Win or lose I won't get excited until I see consistent effort.

Every year there are guys who fall due to some biases and they all get picked at a certain point when they fall far enough for a team to think it's worth the gamble. Benson is no different.

Well yes, I think they were lucky in both cases. I don't think watching Savoie mattered though. I think that's just your conjecture. Sabres do not have a size bias like some teams (eg. Philly). Adams should have known their were goaltenders going to be waived. DiPietro was another candidate if not Ellis. The question now is what is he doing and why isn't he doing it? Decide already. If he's set on UPL then trade Lyon. Can't see Edmonton not taking a shot at him. Just make a decision. What is Adams doing anyway? Just lunching and golfing with Staal (who does what as well?)?

Well ya, because I think the Hawks were flat and floating. They felt screwed over by the refs the other night and I think they came in ill prepared and unmotivated. The fragility of youth if you like. So it didn't take much and Sabres had been yelled at so they came with their speed and there it is. Look, I have said this before. If you give the Sabres open ice they are as good as ANYBODY. They would be a cup finalist if the whole league played that way, but the reality is there's more to hockey than that and most teams don't play that way. This is where it falls apart. Calgary might be a garbage team but they are a grind team who play along the boards. Sabres lost to a crap Philly team last year exact same way. This movie is a rerun. I see the article on the top page how "Zucker drags them into the fight" and yes, that's true, but it also exemplifies the flaw in the whole plan. The lack of veteran leadership as a whole in the entire rebuild. It's a fundamental and fatal flaw in the Adams plan. Zucker isn't enough. I don't think things have changed here. I could be wrong, but it all looks the same to me.